[jdev] Walled garden [Was: Facebook XMPP]

Sylvain Hellegouarch sh at defuze.org
Fri May 16 06:02:02 CDT 2008

Sander Devrieze a écrit :
> 2008/5/15 JabberForum <list-jdev at jabberforum.org>:
>> I aggree. I don't really see a point in having an open letter. They know
>> of our existence, and they'll contact us soon enough.
> An open letter maybe can be useful if it is done as some kind of press
> release. First contact several potential walled garden owners and get
> them to support the open letter by switching to XMPP. Then list them
> in this letter or let them publish this letter or something like that.
> Overview of the battle field, in order of how easy it will be to get
> them to use XMPP (I may be wrong here):
> 1) Walled garden networks of social networks and things like
> that<--They will be the easiest to convert to XMPP as their market
> share is too small and they need to start from zero regarding clients.
> XMPP also seems to have the right features for them.
> 2) Yahoo<--There market share is the smallest of the big walled garden
> networks and I guess it is diminishing. Also, in order to get some
> more protection against a hostile takeover of Microsoft, they may want
> to adopt XMPP. As Micosoft really wants to get more important on the
> Internet, this argument is also true for social networks that want to
> protect themselves (cfr. Facebook)
> 3) AIM/ICQ<--I believe AOL's market share is also diminishing, but
> it's still big and they don't have to fair a hostile takeover bid I
> guess. It will be harder to get them converted. A good reason for them
> to adopt XMPP early would be that they still have a big market share.
> If they don't wait to long with switching, they will be able to
> control the direction of XMPP more easily than if they wait until they
> are forced to switch.
> 4) MSN<--This will be the hardest. I guess it may be XMPP versus MSN
> for a relative long time. Microsoft integrated MSN in all its software
> and services. The best way is probably to focus on giving the whole
> XMPP world a stronger position in companies; if enough companies ask
> XMPP support in Microsoft's products, Microsoft will be forced to add
> it, but it will not be easy.

On the topic of walled garden:

Sorry Remko for posting a link... ;)

- Sylvain

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