[jdev] a vision

Nicolas Vérité nicolas.verite at gmail.com
Wed Mar 11 08:29:37 CDT 2009

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Remko Tronçon <remko at el-tramo.be> wrote:
> All this can be avoided with one central 'jabber.org' service: you
> have a core team of people focusing on running an excellent XMPP
> service, and another team focusing on keeping the website up, and
> another team for the translations. Combined efforts give much better
> results.

Why not call it MSN or QQ? (just kidding..).

Combiend efforts are already in place in local communities.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Remko Tronçon <remko at el-tramo.be> wrote:
>> But all the past initiatives have failed to bring contributions...
> By the way, I think one of the most important parts of failure on
> jabber.org contributions is the fact that it was Wiki-driven.

Most of the reasons why it failed was because... we failed to gather
contributions. Everything non-mediawiki has a high barrier of entry.

> I agree
> that this is impossible to keep in sync, and I don't believe a
> Wiki-based approach can work.

Communties that have a wiki (that works):
Please, pleeeeaaaase, take a look! ;-)

> Peter talks about "A clean and simple website with minimal text that
> will help end users get started with Jabber". That should be much
> easier to maintain and internationalize, without resorting to Wikis.

I disagree, having exeprienced it many times in many places, every
potential contributor already knows and contributes at least a bit to
Wikipedia (and its syntax), thus a Medawiki-based place is an
excellent way to go. It works. Period. Unless you don't seed work and
let it die. My seed is here: a small cleaning and features. Please

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