[jdev] a vision

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Thu Mar 12 12:48:30 CDT 2009

On 3/12/09 11:24 AM, Pedro Melo wrote:
> On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Justin Karneges wrote:
>> The big question of all is whether it is the job of jabber.org to  
>> compete with
>> Skype.  Aren't there others in this space already trying to do  
>> that?  If
>> jabber.org is truly competitive, and no longer a self-defeating  
>> reference
>> service, is it still fair to use the "Jabber" name?  Peter, you may  
>> remember,
>> one of the options we discussed was to actually get rid of jabber.org
>> entirely. ;-)
> I don't think its the role of jabber.org to compete direcly with Skype.
> But there are certain services that would make the network better  
> (like a network of sock5 proxys, and all the NAT-busting stuff) that  
> require some form of central coordination, and that fits perfectly for  
> jabber.org.
> As for the IM service, I would keep it running and continue to accept  
> new users as the "backup route for new jabber users": if they are not  
> introduced to a more local jabber service then you can always have  
> Jabber.org.

Look, if we don't do it nobody will. Much as I like the folks who work
on services like Google Talk and Nimbuzz and SAPO (etc.), they need to
justify their services to people at their companies. That means they try
to funnel users to their domains. It's not in their interest to run an
open infrastructure for IM / file transfer / voice / video. Whether we
call it "Jabber" or "FreeTalk" or something else doesn't matter. (I
rather like "FreeTalk", myself.) The point is that we have the chance to
federate with all those other services but also offer something more open.


Peter Saint-Andre

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