[jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Thu Mar 12 21:47:07 CDT 2009

On 3/12/09 8:31 PM, Brett Zamir wrote:
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im> To: Jabber/XMPP
>> software development list <jdev at jabber.org> Sent: Friday, March 13,
>> 2009 2:15:12 AM Subject: Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting
>> On 3/12/09 12:13 PM, Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
>>> Am 12.03.2009 um 18:59 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre:
>>>> On 3/10/09 1:00 AM, Nathan Fritz wrote:
>>>>> XMPP sucks because the namespaces are incredibly inconsistent
>>>> Could you explain that more?
>>> I guess he's talking about jabber:iq:* vs. urn:xmpp:* vs. 
>>> http://jabber.org/*
>> I think so too. It can't really be helped. At least we're
>> consistent now...
> While I think it is reasonable for a spec to maintain usage of such
> namespace forms for historical reasons (unless creating a new version
> of the spec entirely), since Pubsub is still only a draft, I think it
> really would be less confusing for it to change the namespace issue
> for the creating nodes action, to be under the Pubsub #owner
> namespace, as with the other owner tasks. Although I understand it is
> yet another change for previous implementers 

And *not* backwards-compatible. I think this is a non-starter.

> and I don't want to beat
> a dead horse, if a spec is not internally consistent with its usages,
> I really think that should be addressed.

I disagree.

> Sorry I missed the meeting, 

There will be others. :)

> but I'm still really eager to know about
> whether Data Forms could be changed to support real namespaces.

I'll have to look up your older messages about that. I'm still
struggling to catch up on email (~1000 messages in my inbox) and finish
my action items from the XMPP Summit, plus deal with fun problems like
the recent outbreak of groupchat spammers on the XMPP network...


Peter Saint-Andre

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