[jdev] The future of Jabber/XMPP?

Remko Tronçon remko at el-tramo.be
Mon Aug 30 08:06:26 CDT 2010

Hi Evgeniy,

> noone cares about implementations
> feedback anymore, it is much more funny to flame implementation wars instead
> of make all implementations happy.

IMO, the primary goal of the XSF (and any XMPP software project) is
making XMPP users happy. Unable to implement/scale protocols means bad
experiences, means unhappy users, so we *definitely* care about
implementation feedback.

Disco-ing clients all the time costs users a lot of money on mobile
systems, and makes users very unhappy. PEP's "raison d'être" *is*
avoiding all this unwanted traffic at signin. If it's impossible to
implement PEP in a scalable way without sending unwanted traffic, then
we should throw this protocol away, and start over with something that
*does* work. But in the meantime, for the sake of the XMPP network,
please don't deploy PEP for inter-server communication if this means
costing everybody money without *any* means to avoid it.


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