[jdev] clients list,..

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Tue Apr 16 20:47:00 UTC 2013


Well, our friend Ludovic is a bit obsessive about the word "jabber".

Domain names are fair use:

http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/jabber-trademark/guidelines/

Because the SJ IM authors are making a good-faith effort to change the
name, I have added the client back to this list:

http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/clients/

Ludovic, if you have concerns with that, make them on this discussion
list and do not once again remove SJ IM from that list without coordination.

Peter

On 4/15/13 4:03 AM, Info . wrote:
> Yes, because the .exe and source have not changed...
> http://safetyjabber.com/download.php
>
> Can u explain about what u speak?
>
> Premium version changed and updated....
>
> Free version is no longer supported... but we can make changes in
> source code..
>
> u speak about source codes?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Ludovic BOCQUET <lbxmpp at live.com
> <mailto:lbxmpp at live.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     BOCQUET Ludovic
>     An XSF member
>     XMPP Standards Foundation
>     http://xmpp.org/
>
>     Le 10/04/2013 23:01, Peter Saint-Andre a écrit :
>
>>     On 3/24/13 2:41 PM, Ludovic BOCQUET wrote:
>>     > On your website, I see: - http://safetyjabber.com/faq/ -
>>     > http://ensjblog.blogspot.com/ -
>>     > http://safetyjabbercom.blogspot.com/ -
>>     > http://safetyjabber.com/aff/affiliate/ -
>>     > http://safetyjabber.com/forum/ - Maybe others...
>>
>>     So what? Domain names are fair use, according to the trademark rules.
>     There are/were SafetyJabber in images and texts, Alexander has
>     seen this (and other guys).
>     http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jdev/2013-March/089398.html
>>
>>     > Reminder: Jabber is a Cisco Systems trademark (Originally Jabber
>>     > Inc.) and used: -
>>     > http://www.cisco.com/web/products/voice/jabber.html -
>>     > http://ciscojabbervideo.com/
>>
>>     > The protocol has been named XMPP since 2004: -
>>     > http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/faq/ -
>>     > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP
>>
>>     > Regards,
>>
>>     > BOCQUET Ludovic An XSF member
>>
>>     Just because you are a member of the XSF doesn't mean you speak for
>>     the XSF.
>     Of course, it is a note.
>>
>>     Ludovic, did you remove SJ IM from the client list? It is no longer
>>     listed here:
>>
>>     http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/clients/
>     Yes, because the .exe and source have not changed...
>     http://safetyjabber.com/download.php
>
>     You can note that Jabbin has never added (a Psi fork).
>>
>>     Peter
>>
>     >
>     >
>
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