[jdev] XMPP and Facebook

Geof geof.lambert at gmail.com
Tue Jan 8 16:14:08 UTC 2013

Ha, well yes there is a place for political discussions here at times in
technical forums.

That is why I am on this list. Just look at where Eric Schmidt from Google
is today, or at least he was there yesterday I believe, North Korea.

 But yes for sure it has to be within reason and limited in focus/scope.

So after being a very silent member to this list for the past 4 or 5 years,
I will say I remember
very vividly the day I sat down with the director of marketing at facebook
in their at the time
very small corporate offices in Palo Alto and talking about XMPP and using
IM on the fb platform, etc.  I think they might have had a couple of
million registered users at the time. MySpace "owned the world" at the
time.   A lot has changed in XMPP and social networking worlds since then.

And yes, it sure would be useful and cool to add one more level of "unified
communications" into the Social Networking world.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Dennis Schubert <xmpp at dennis-schubert.de>wrote:

> Hash: SHA1
> Hi,
> you are right, "never" was a bit too hard. I just was talking about what
> I heard from some official sides before. Just wanted to say that would
> be a pretty nice "improvement". Seems to work fine for Google, but this
> list is not the right place for policital discussions, I guess.
> On 08.01.13 08:39, Pedro Melo wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Dennis Schubert
> > <xmpp at dennis-schubert.de> wrote:
> >> IIRC, Facebook will never allow s2s.
> >
> > "Never" is one of those words…
> >
> > There is no technical reason that prevents Facebook providing S2S.
> > Even with their usage of your own email address as login.
> >
> > When you add a new buddy to your Facebook chat app, say
> > melo at simplicidade.org, they could offer the option of using my
> > Facebook IM account (melopt at facebook.com, who they know is
> > associated with that email address) or a remote Jabber/Gtalk/XMPP
> > account.
> >
> > The person identifier you use to add a buddy needs not be the actual
> > XMPP JID you'll use to communicate. It's just a mapping process at
> > the moment you add the buddy account.
> >
> > Only political/strategy reasons, and possibly a little concern with
> > another attack vector, prevent Facebook from adding S2S.
> >
> > Bye,
> - --
> Dennis Schubert
> http://schub.io
> xmpp:denschub at dsx.cc
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