[jdev] clients list,..

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Wed Jan 23 17:11:03 UTC 2013

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If it's called "SJ Messenger" then no approval is needed. It's only
the "jabber" word that causes us problems. :(

On 1/23/13 10:04 AM, Info . wrote:
> thanks for your reply Peter...
> the real name of the program is SJ.... as u can see we use this on
> appstore http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sj/id551363268
> in the first versions of the program, we use the name of the Safety
> Jabber.
> We can remove all references to "Safety Jabber" from our
> software.... and change it to SJ or SJ Messenger....
> Did u approve that?
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Peter Saint-Andre
> <stpeter at stpeter.im <mailto:stpeter at stpeter.im>> wrote:
> On 1/23/13 7:41 AM, Info . wrote:
>> Hello!
>> thanks for your answer....
>> it's really hard to add in client list...
> It's not really hard to have your software added to the client
> list. But in your case we have a challenge because you are selling 
> commercial software containing the JABBER name.
>> tell me pls... your software has been added to that list?
>> we was created page - http://safetyjabber.com/trademarks.php
>> maybe this helps...
> What would help is for you to ask someone who understands English
> for assistance, so that I can clearly explain the JABBER trademark 
> licensing program to you. Your software, "Safety Jabber", needs to
> be licensed so that you can use the JABBER mark in the name. Please
> see the following pages:
> http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/jabber-trademark/guidelines/
> http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/jabber-trademark/who-needs-a-license/
>  I admit that I've been too slow about replying to your email
> messages about this matter, and for that I apologize. On the other
> hand, I've found communication with you to be far from easy. If you
> could ask someone who speaks both Russian and English to help us
> communicate, that would be ideal.
> Peter
> P.S. We wouldn't have this problem if you chose some other name
> for your client, like "Safety Chat" or "SafeJab" or somesuch. Most
> of the XMPP-based software applications including the word "Jabber"
> are very old (from the early days of the jabber open-source
> community) and they were all open-source. We've never had to deal
> with commercial software containing the JABBER mark, and that's
> part of the problem here.
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