[jdev] manifesto 0.4
stpeter at stpeter.im
Fri Nov 8 00:55:29 UTC 2013
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On 11/7/13 4:33 PM, Marco Cirillo wrote:
> Il 08/11/2013 00:13, Alexander Holler ha scritto:
>> Anyway, now it's really enough. I feel like I've ended up in a
>> kindergarten with a lot of people which seem to have become
>> angry because I did say something against a small part of their
>> toy and which do prefer to play the three monkeys and which like
>> to turn my words in my mouth into something I never said.
> I don't think I did try to put into your mouth words or twist ones
> coming out of it (or anyone else did by that matter), but FWIW, as
> side note, the way you did address people as, expecially in the
> last posts, isn't exactly proper.
> And you're right, it's *really enough* (at least for me).
I have not read this thread, because I am very busy at the IETF
meeting this week in Vancouver.
The Jabber/XMPP community has always had a culture of being friendly
and respectful of others (yes, we've also had some flame wars during
that time!). I request that we keep it that way.
Security is hard. There are legitimate choices to be made here, we
don't want to fracture our network, and there are many problems yet to
be solved (opportunistic encryption with TLS + Dialback, DNSSEC/DANE,
POSH, key pinning, certificate transparency, peer-to-peer trust among
servers without so-called trusted third parties, end-to-end
encryption, potentially even things like cover traffic and mix
networks). I for one don't claim to have all the answers. As a
community, we need to figure out where we want to go. I agree with
Marco that our network currently provides a lower level of security
than we are capable of offering today -- a level that I think does not
show appropriate respect for those who use our services. IMHO we have
a responsibility to do better, and that's why I published the manifesto.
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