[jdev] TLS Everywhere

Simon Tennant simon at buddycloud.com
Mon Oct 28 20:47:35 UTC 2013

On 28 October 2013 18:12, Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>wrote:
>> Almost 15 years have passed since my friend Jeremie Miller released
>> the initial version of the jabberd IM server, launching the Jabber
>> open-source community and the technology we know today as XMPP. Yet,
>> all that time, hop-by-hop encryption using SSL/TLS has been optional
>> on the XMPP network. A number of server operators and software
>> developers in the XMPP community have decided that needs to change for
>> the better. Based on discussions at the XMPP Summit last week in
>> Portland, Oregon, I have drafted a plan for upgrading the XMPP network
>> to always-on, mandatory, ubiquitous encryption. You can find it here:
> I'm basically all in favour of this, however last week we also discussed
> resurrecting the "Jabber" mark for use as a descriptive label for what you
> refer to above as "the XMPP network".

I guess I heard a different conversation.

I can't see a single good reason to add two words that need explaining into
a product/protocol description.

Compare -
-- "It's like Coke but it is pink"
-- "It's like Coke but it it's kwaffiturm"

One of those you can imagine.

I've just made up a new word that needs explaining. And it brings no

A fraction of developers know about XMPP. It we can't sell them on that,
then we don't make our job easier by adding more phrases to the mix that
need explaining.

Please just use XMPP and "powered by XMPP", "built on XMPP". It's going to
make our life so much easier.

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