[jdev] TLS Everywhere

Kim Alvefur zash at zash.se
Mon Oct 28 21:48:42 UTC 2013

On 2013-10-28 22:24, Dave Cridland wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im
> <mailto:stpeter at stpeter.im>> wrote:
>     We were talking about "Jabber" for communication with end users about
>     getting an IM account. Most end users (and even people at technical
>     conference) still call it Jabber. I see no reason to fight that
>     forever. Introduce it as Jabber or "you might know it as Jabber" but
>     then talk about XMPP. That's what I usually do.
> I find it interesting that according to Google trends, although "xmpp
> server" and "jabber server" are roughly equal, "jabber client" is
> searched for roughly twice as much as "xmpp client".
> So if we're purely aiming at end users wanting IM accounts, then yes,
> Jabber seems to be the obvious choice. I think this document essentially
> aims at server administrators (who apparently use either equally), but I
> suspect that the whole TLS thing would be most useful if it were
> something server admins could brag about to their users; that suggests
> using the Jabber mark.

So we'll need to Reclaim the Jabber™? :)

I remember there being talk of getting the trade mark back from Cisco
before, is time we finally did that?  Something for the board to tackle?

Kim "Zash" Alvefur

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