[jdev] TLS Everywhere

Olle E. Johansson oej at edvina.net
Tue Oct 29 17:36:33 UTC 2013

On 29 Oct 2013, at 18:08, Ben Langfeld <ben at langfeld.me> wrote:

> The long and short of it is that non-technical users will not ever associate with an acronym. In fact, for wide user adoption a word that can be used as a verb is pretty much a requirement: langfeld.me/why-dont-like-skype-and-why-you-shouldnt-either.html
Thank you for that blog entry, Ben! I have been saying the same. We need to find a word that means "communicate in realtime over the INternet using DNS federation" that has nothing to do with a brand or with "telephony".

> On 29 October 2013 14:17, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im> wrote:
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> On 10/29/13 10:11 AM, Jonas Wielicki wrote:
> > On 28.10.2013 22:24, Dave Cridland wrote:
> >> So if we're purely aiming at end users wanting IM accounts, then
> >> yes, Jabber seems to be the obvious choice. I think this document
> >> essentially aims at server administrators (who apparently use
> >> either equally), but I suspect that the whole TLS thing would be
> >> most useful if it were something server admins could brag about
> >> to their users; that suggests using the Jabber mark.
> >
> > This is indeed a strange phenomenon. Even amongst the people I
> > introduced to XMPP, the name “Jabber” is more popular. I think it
> > related to the fact that XMPP is a four letter acronym, which
> > sounds technical (especially in DE, where X is a rare letter),
> > while Jabber is a short word which is somewhat easier to memorize.
> I completely agree. "XMPP" is a geeky term.
> > I just wanted to throw that in, I take it's not really possible to
> > get that trademark back, although it is probably the term by which
> > the network is best known by the end users.
> You can call it the Jabber network all you want, that's fair use.
> This topic came up at the XMPP Summit last week because some people
> there were talking about building an easier way for end user to
> register accounts on servers. For example, if some people were to run
> a centralized registration service, would it be more user-friendly to
> run that at, say, register.jabber.org than at register.xmpp.net? And
> most of the folks at the meetings agreed that register.jabber.org
> might be more user-friendly. (And yes, it does seem that end users
> often think the only place to register "Jabber" accounts is at
> jabber.org.)
> Peter
> P.S. The license plate on my car still says "JABBER", not "XMPP". :P
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