[Juser] Re: SSL Connect with Rhymbox 1.6

Ken Wermann kwermann at misti.com
Tue Jul 8 11:48:45 CDT 2003

No problem on the long response time. It turns out that we just do not like
how featureless it seems next to clients like Exodus and JAJC. We have
decided to standardize on JCAC since Exodus has been buggy outside of out
Firewall. It will just take approximately 10 minutes longer to show to our

As for the speed delay for SSL, it makes the client appear to be not working
as you occasionally also get an error. To me as an Admin it doesn't matter,
BUT when you give it to the everyday user, you are frustrating that user,
giving them a product that "doesn't work". Even though we all know it does.
You are also giving them something that is slow and a pain. Unfortunately
all non IT users want things ASAP and completely working all the time. 


Ken Wermann

Systems Administrator
MIS Training Institute
kwermann at misti.com
508-879-7999 x367

> -----Original Message-----
> From: juser-admin at jabber.org [mailto:juser-admin at jabber.org] On Behalf Of
> Frank Seesink
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:23 PM
> To: juser at jabber.org
> Subject: [Juser] Re: SSL Connect with Rhymbox 1.6
> Ken Wermann wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > Have you seen a problem with the new Rhymbox when trying to connect over
> > 5223 to the SSL port that the connection fails? Then if you leave it for
> > a minute it logs on? This does not happen if connecting without SSL, but
> > since that is the only connection type we allow on the server I need it.
> >
> > Any advice,
> *snip*
> Ken,
> Sorry for long delay in responding.  Probably useless comment at this
> point, but to answer your question:  have patience. :-)
> 	Yes I've noticed this lag, as I tend to use Rhymbox myself.  Looking
> at
> my internal connections, it appears Rhymbox uses a separate executable
> called stunnel.exe, located in
> 	x:\Program Files\RhymBox\bin\ateclient
> to perform SSL connections (part of the Tipic client SDK framework).
> That is, instead of Rhymbox.exe making the connection, stunnel.exe is
> fired up and acts a proxy of sorts...
> 	Rhymbox <--> stunnel <--> Jabber server
> This building of the connection takes a few moments (SSL is not
> instant).  Not sure there's any way to speed things up.  You could, of
> course, try another Jabber client to see if it worked more to your
> satisfaction, or contact Rhymbox's author to see if there are any plans
> to improve performance/change things (though I doubt it, as it appears
> to part of the SDK used to perform the Jabber functions, and would
> likely require Tipic changing things, not the Rhymbox author).
> 	Honestly, I just wait the few extra seconds and then things are
> fine.
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