[Juser] proposed changes to jabber.org service policy

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Tue Aug 21 14:29:18 UTC 2012

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On 8/21/12 3:05 AM, ubsy at riseup.net wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>> I have not dealt with such a request so am speaking from a
>> position of some ignorance, but I suspect that the requesting
>> entities would, at least in some cases, require that those users
>> whose data are being requested not be told in advance.
> Yeah Kevin, when you put it that way it sounds awfully reasonable.
> Well: What about another proposition:
> Even though we are legally obligated to disclose information about
> our users when specifically requested to do so under court order we
> may only disclose such information which we have in the first
> place. These are:
> 1. IP addresses, dates, and times associated with authentication
> attempts 2. Roster contacts (that is ISP contacts?)

Not ISP contacts (I don't know what that would be), but JabberIDs in
the buddy list that you store on the server.

I agree that it would be good to make it clear what information we do
and do not share when we receive a court order.

> We do not save XMPP stanzas passing through the service, payment 
> information, or email addresses or attachments of our users.

Among other things, yes. Some of the court orders I have received for
jabber.org requested some strange things (which would be normal for an
ISP or email service but simply don't apply to an IM service).


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