[Operators] Google Talk Doesn't Perform S2S with Random JabberServers

Florian Jensen admin at flosoft.biz
Wed Feb 20 10:52:15 CST 2008

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I think, but this might be wrong, that Google is currently using the
mentality of: We are the biggest XMPP Server, so we can lay down the rules.
Other people should adopt them.


Florian Jensen

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:46:22 -0600, Jesse Thompson
<jesse.thompson at doit.wisc.edu> wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Mickaël Rémond wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> From what I know Google has changed two weeks ago the way they handle
>>> s2s. They have added more servers that can handle s2s (know you can
>>> reach several different ip for s2s).
>>> It broke s2s for several hosts. I suspect they have added some kind of
>>> regulation or anti abuse mecanism that cause trouble to some.
>> It seems that the problem happens only with services that produce a
>> small volume of traffic over the federated link. Perhaps they have some
>> automatic timeouts? I'm trying to find out more about the problem from
>> folks at Google.
> small volume of traffic: as in too little?  Our test environment works
> fine, and it produces almost no traffic to Google.  Or, as in too much
> traffic?  Then why does it work with jabber.org?
> federated link: as opposed to what?
> It's odd that Google doesn't engage the XMPP community.  Don't they want
> their service to work with others?  If they collaborate, we might be
> able to help them deal with the issues, because some day we'll all be
> dealing with the same issues to some extent.
> Jesse
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