[Operators] Recent Google XMPP Federation problems

David Horwitz david.horwitz at uct.ac.za
Tue Feb 26 08:45:05 CST 2008


Hi  Pedro,

This was originally started as a call logged with google 2 weeks ago. 
Took some hunting to figure out how to do that! The address it came from 
is apps-support at google.com

David

Pedro Melo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Feb 26, 2008, at 1:17 PM, David Horwitz wrote:
>> My last communication from google help basically seems to suggest they 
>> expect us to go through the domain verification process in order for 
>> us to get our routing back! So basically you have to register all your 
>> domains, get admin access and switch off the gtalk app or you risk one 
>> of your users breaking your routing with google.  (email reproduced 
>> bellow for info).
> 
> The email message requires a response to follow up on the process. Did 
> you requested this from support at google or some more specific email address?
> 
> I've been browsing and searching the Google Apps Help, and so far 
> nothing on this.
> 
> 
>>
>> While I am negotiating this with the relevant sections of our IT 
>> department, it has moved Google from my favourite suppliers of cool 
>> new stuff to the worst. I also generally am one of the people who 
>> argue against the network being locked down and people to be allowed 
>> to use new service, this fiasco will seriously dent my credibility 
>> next time I argue "you can't block that google app"
> 
> yeah :(, and it is really unfortunate.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
>>
>> David
>>
>>> If you would like me to designate one of the accounts as an 
>>> administrator
>>> then you can nominate one after proving your ownership:
>>> Verification option #1: create a special CNAME record
>>> Create the following CNAME record for your domain through your domain
>>> hosting provider.
>>> dublin points to ghs.google.com
>>> If your domain host is separate from your domain registrar, make sure
>>> you're modifying the CNAME record with your domain host.  For help
>>> creating this CNAME record, visit
>>> https://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=47283.
>>> Verification option #2: uploading a special HTML file
>>> 1. Create an HTML file and name it gafyd.html.
>>> 2. Enter the following characters anywhere in the HTML file: dublin.
>>> 3. Save and upload this HTML file to your website.  Be sure to upload 
>>> the
>>> file to your root directory.
>>> 4. Check http://your-domain.com/gafyd.html to make sure the file was
>>> uploaded properly.
>>> Once you've completed one of the verification options, reply to this
>>> message, and I'll review your request.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Lucas
>>> The Google Apps Team
>>
>>
>>
>> Pedro Melo wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:52 AM, David Horwitz wrote:
>>>> An update on this post some back and forth with the google help 
>>>> team. It seems that anyone registering to use Google apps team 
>>>> edition on a domain causes google the assume it handles XMPP for 
>>>> that domain - Until the admin opts out.
>>>>
>>>> So it looks like a student or staff member has registered to use 
>>>> google apps on our domain. No admin has registered (confirmed by 
>>>> Google) yet Google still seems to think it handles XMPP.
>>>>
>>>> This is not good!
>>> Yeah. Not good at all. This was my biggest concern when I read about 
>>> the team edition.
>>> I think the Google team in charge of this must quickly re-think this 
>>> behavior. It is terribly irresponsible. What would people think if I 
>>> registered my email with GMail and they decided that they are my 
>>> preferred MX?
>>> I wonder if they couldn't risk legal action by disrupting network 
>>> communications like this... Specially under US law... It's a terrible 
>>> risk to take.
>>> If anybody knows where admins can opt-out, please post the link. I 
>>> need to place some domains in there... I wonder how they check that 
>>> I'm really the domain admin. Another problem that Admin Contacts for 
>>> Servers would solve...
>>> Best regards,
>>
>> -- 
>> "It remains that, from the same principles, I now demonstrate the 
>> frame of the System of the World." - Newton "Principia Mathematica"
>>
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> 

-- 
"It remains that, from the same principles, I now demonstrate the frame 
of the System of the World." - Newton "Principia Mathematica"

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