[Operators] Recent Google XMPP Federation problems
david.horwitz at uct.ac.za
Tue Feb 26 08:45:05 CST 2008
This was originally started as a call logged with google 2 weeks ago.
Took some hunting to figure out how to do that! The address it came from
is apps-support at google.com
Pedro Melo wrote:
> On Feb 26, 2008, at 1:17 PM, David Horwitz wrote:
>> My last communication from google help basically seems to suggest they
>> expect us to go through the domain verification process in order for
>> us to get our routing back! So basically you have to register all your
>> domains, get admin access and switch off the gtalk app or you risk one
>> of your users breaking your routing with google. (email reproduced
>> bellow for info).
> The email message requires a response to follow up on the process. Did
> you requested this from support at google or some more specific email address?
> I've been browsing and searching the Google Apps Help, and so far
> nothing on this.
>> While I am negotiating this with the relevant sections of our IT
>> department, it has moved Google from my favourite suppliers of cool
>> new stuff to the worst. I also generally am one of the people who
>> argue against the network being locked down and people to be allowed
>> to use new service, this fiasco will seriously dent my credibility
>> next time I argue "you can't block that google app"
> yeah :(, and it is really unfortunate.
> Best regards,
>>> If you would like me to designate one of the accounts as an
>>> then you can nominate one after proving your ownership:
>>> Verification option #1: create a special CNAME record
>>> Create the following CNAME record for your domain through your domain
>>> hosting provider.
>>> dublin points to ghs.google.com
>>> If your domain host is separate from your domain registrar, make sure
>>> you're modifying the CNAME record with your domain host. For help
>>> creating this CNAME record, visit
>>> Verification option #2: uploading a special HTML file
>>> 1. Create an HTML file and name it gafyd.html.
>>> 2. Enter the following characters anywhere in the HTML file: dublin.
>>> 3. Save and upload this HTML file to your website. Be sure to upload
>>> file to your root directory.
>>> 4. Check http://your-domain.com/gafyd.html to make sure the file was
>>> uploaded properly.
>>> Once you've completed one of the verification options, reply to this
>>> message, and I'll review your request.
>>> The Google Apps Team
>> Pedro Melo wrote:
>>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:52 AM, David Horwitz wrote:
>>>> An update on this post some back and forth with the google help
>>>> team. It seems that anyone registering to use Google apps team
>>>> edition on a domain causes google the assume it handles XMPP for
>>>> that domain - Until the admin opts out.
>>>> So it looks like a student or staff member has registered to use
>>>> google apps on our domain. No admin has registered (confirmed by
>>>> Google) yet Google still seems to think it handles XMPP.
>>>> This is not good!
>>> Yeah. Not good at all. This was my biggest concern when I read about
>>> the team edition.
>>> I think the Google team in charge of this must quickly re-think this
>>> behavior. It is terribly irresponsible. What would people think if I
>>> registered my email with GMail and they decided that they are my
>>> preferred MX?
>>> I wonder if they couldn't risk legal action by disrupting network
>>> communications like this... Specially under US law... It's a terrible
>>> risk to take.
>>> If anybody knows where admins can opt-out, please post the link. I
>>> need to place some domains in there... I wonder how they check that
>>> I'm really the domain admin. Another problem that Admin Contacts for
>>> Servers would solve...
>>> Best regards,
>> "It remains that, from the same principles, I now demonstrate the
>> frame of the System of the World." - Newton "Principia Mathematica"
"It remains that, from the same principles, I now demonstrate the frame
of the System of the World." - Newton "Principia Mathematica"
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