[Operators] Recent Google XMPP Federation problems
melo at simplicidade.org
Tue Feb 26 10:04:12 CST 2008
On Feb 26, 2008, at 2:45 PM, David Horwitz wrote:
> Hi Pedro,
> This was originally started as a call logged with google 2 weeks
> ago. Took some hunting to figure out how to do that! The address it
> came from is apps-support at google.com
I've sent an email message to that address. If the process improves
I'll post an update.
> Pedro Melo wrote:
>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 1:17 PM, David Horwitz wrote:
>>> My last communication from google help basically seems to suggest
>>> they expect us to go through the domain verification process in
>>> order for us to get our routing back! So basically you have to
>>> register all your domains, get admin access and switch off the
>>> gtalk app or you risk one of your users breaking your routing
>>> with google. (email reproduced bellow for info).
>> The email message requires a response to follow up on the process.
>> Did you requested this from support at google or some more specific
>> email address?
>> I've been browsing and searching the Google Apps Help, and so far
>> nothing on this.
>>> While I am negotiating this with the relevant sections of our IT
>>> department, it has moved Google from my favourite suppliers of
>>> cool new stuff to the worst. I also generally am one of the
>>> people who argue against the network being locked down and people
>>> to be allowed to use new service, this fiasco will seriously dent
>>> my credibility next time I argue "you can't block that google app"
>> yeah :(, and it is really unfortunate.
>> Best regards,
>>>> If you would like me to designate one of the accounts as an
>>>> then you can nominate one after proving your ownership:
>>>> Verification option #1: create a special CNAME record
>>>> Create the following CNAME record for your domain through your
>>>> hosting provider.
>>>> dublin points to ghs.google.com
>>>> If your domain host is separate from your domain registrar, make
>>>> you're modifying the CNAME record with your domain host. For help
>>>> creating this CNAME record, visit
>>>> Verification option #2: uploading a special HTML file
>>>> 1. Create an HTML file and name it gafyd.html.
>>>> 2. Enter the following characters anywhere in the HTML file:
>>>> 3. Save and upload this HTML file to your website. Be sure to
>>>> upload the
>>>> file to your root directory.
>>>> 4. Check http://your-domain.com/gafyd.html to make sure the file
>>>> uploaded properly.
>>>> Once you've completed one of the verification options, reply to
>>>> message, and I'll review your request.
>>>> The Google Apps Team
>>> Pedro Melo wrote:
>>>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:52 AM, David Horwitz wrote:
>>>>> An update on this post some back and forth with the google help
>>>>> team. It seems that anyone registering to use Google apps team
>>>>> edition on a domain causes google the assume it handles XMPP
>>>>> for that domain - Until the admin opts out.
>>>>> So it looks like a student or staff member has registered to
>>>>> use google apps on our domain. No admin has registered
>>>>> (confirmed by Google) yet Google still seems to think it
>>>>> handles XMPP.
>>>>> This is not good!
>>>> Yeah. Not good at all. This was my biggest concern when I read
>>>> about the team edition.
>>>> I think the Google team in charge of this must quickly re-think
>>>> this behavior. It is terribly irresponsible. What would people
>>>> think if I registered my email with GMail and they decided that
>>>> they are my preferred MX?
>>>> I wonder if they couldn't risk legal action by disrupting
>>>> network communications like this... Specially under US law...
>>>> It's a terrible risk to take.
>>>> If anybody knows where admins can opt-out, please post the link.
>>>> I need to place some domains in there... I wonder how they check
>>>> that I'm really the domain admin. Another problem that Admin
>>>> Contacts for Servers would solve...
>>>> Best regards,
>>> "It remains that, from the same principles, I now demonstrate the
>>> frame of the System of the World." - Newton "Principia Mathematica"
> "It remains that, from the same principles, I now demonstrate the
> frame of the System of the World." - Newton "Principia Mathematica"
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