[Operators] Google Talk federation problems (still)

Justin Uberti juberti at google.com
Thu Feb 28 13:19:33 CST 2008

Hi Jeff,
There was an email from Adam Fass earlier this week explaining the nature of
the issue. Basically when Google Apps Team Edition was launched, it caused
routing for some federated domains to be affected. This was an accident and
federation should now be restored; work is also being done to prevent this
from occurring for any future federated domains.

Are there other concerns that you have with the Google Talk service? XMPP is
very important to us, and we want to make sure we maintain a positive dialog
with other XMPP operators.


On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Jeff McAdams <jeffm at iglou.com> wrote:

> I just sent a couple of messages to xmpp at google.com, but I'm
> experiencing the same sort of federation issues with google talk hosted
> domains that other people have experienced here the past week or so.
> I'm, in particular, dealing with two domains that are hosted at Google
> Talk, one is new, and one has been on Google Talk hosted for many months.
> I am able to send messages to the hosted domains from my server, but
> they are not able to send messages back.  Presence doesn't seem to be
> correctly being sent either, although I'm not as sure on the details on
> presence.
> Server dialback seems to be succeeding (based on what I can tell in my
> logs) in both directions.
> The domain that has been hosted on Google Talk for a while has been
> successfully in use for months and months, including this federation.
> Any chance we can get a bit more transparency from the Google folks
> about what has changed in s2s handling on the Google side in the past
> couple of weeks?  With some specificity maybe?
> I'm trying to be positive and productive, here, but Google seems to be
> playing fast and loose with at least the spirit of the XMPP standards in
> a couple of places here and its starting to cause some problems.  And to
> say that its frustrating is quite a bit of an understatement.
> --
> Jeff McAdams
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
> little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
>                                       -- Benjamin Franklin
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