[Operators] Services list maintainance

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Tue Apr 12 23:57:40 UTC 2011

On 4/12/11 4:44 PM, Waqas Hussain wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im> wrote:
>> On 4/12/11 3:38 PM, Paul Staroch wrote:
>>> Am 2011-04-12 23:33, schrieb Peter Saint-Andre:
>>>> On 4/12/11 3:31 PM, Sean Dilda wrote:
>>>>> On 4/12/11 5:25 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/12/11 3:24 PM, Sean Dilda wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for doing the new site.  However, with Chrome on my mac, the
>>>>>>> formatting is weird.  I only see the first few characters of the
>>>>>>> 'Primary Admin' field, and have to scroll to the right to see the rest
>>>>>>> even though there's plenty of horizontal space to the sides.
>>>>>> I think we might need to drop one of the columns, but I'm not sure
>>>>>> which...
>>>>>>> Also, a few servers don't have lat/long which makes their columns appear
>>>>>>> weird.
>>>>>> We need to gather that data by poking the admins of those services.
>>>>> If you're looking for suggestions, I say drop the lat/long columns and
>>>>> kill two birds with one stone.  The lat/long doesn't provide much info
>>>>> that the country doesn't.  This is especially true when you consider how
>>>>> easy it is to host a service in multiple datacenters or even have your
>>>>> service hosted in a cloud where you don't know what datacenter you're
>>>>> actually in.
>>>> As I recall, some clients (e.g., Pidgin) use the lat/lon to show a fancy
>>>> interface for choosing a server for registration purposes. But it would
>>>> be good to verify that they still do so. I'll ping their dev list.
>>>> Peter
>>> Don't these clients use the XML data at
>>> http://xmpp.org/services/services-full.xml?
>> Correct, but we'll start auto-generating that XML file from the data in
>> the WordPress database, I think. Still to be determined...
>> Peter
> Here's a bit of XSL to generate XML from the wordpress page:
> https://gist.github.com/916477


> By the way, am I the only one who feels bad about generating XML from
> the wordpress data rather than the other way around?

Y'know, I don't care either way. I like XML so I'd be happy to have the
"source" data in XML. No matter how we do it, we'll need a script to put
data into the WP database or pull it out. :)

> I was in fact thinking of suggesting extending the XML data.
> Particularly it should specify whether a service supports IBR, and a
> link to a registration web page if it doesn't.



Peter Saint-Andre

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