[Operators] Out of curiousity... "What about the List?"

Peter Viskup skupko.sk at gmail.com
Sun Nov 20 10:23:00 UTC 2011


Hi Ben,
would it be possible to see the source code of this application?
It would be much better to contact Peter Saint-Andre 
[stpeter<at>stpeter.im] to get quicker response.

Best regards,
--
Peter Viskup

On 11/20/2011 10:50 AM, Ben Zimmer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'l try to sum up the status as of now:
>
> I built an little application, that should make it a lot easier to
> process new list-applications in the future, as it automates some of
> the steps necessary to verify a new server.
> At the moment it has the following features:
>
> * form for server-admins to register their servers
> * automatic sending of verification-email with verification-link to
> proove email-address is real
> * basic check if server is reachable
> * check for SRV-records
> * check for StartTLS/SSL (this is a bit unreliable at the moment and
> would have to be improved)
> * export of list ready to import into the current
> wordpress-table-format on xmpp.org
>
> I asked if this application could be deployed to the server that hosts
> xmpp.org so that it could be integrated in to the page
> (http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001219.html).
> No answer on that so far.
>
> Regarding the list itself and new applications to it:
> We processed all new applications (until today) into this application
> and also marked old, non-responding server as not-verified there. I
> exported the updated list and imported it to the xmpp-wordpress.
> After this I asked if somebody could approve this and make it public,
> but as of now, nobody did (see
> http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001220.html).
> No reaction to this so far.
>
> The update doesn't include new applications, because email and
> xmpp-address verification is still to be done here. For this purpose
> there was a blogpost planned to inform people about a (mass) email to
> be sent out and from which email this would come to prevent
> misunderstandings (we cannot use a xmpp.org email-address).
>
> I prepared this blogpost and sent out a request for it to be
> proof-read (http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001218.html),
> again without any reaction.
>
> That's about it.
> Ben
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 22:15, Marco Cirillo<maranda at lightwitch.org>  wrote:
>> I think I last mailed asking about it, about 1 month ago...
>> But time is still ticking and there's no visible progress.
>>
>> And at the cost of wearing a "Troll Mask".
>>
>> I'd like to know exactly what's the real _showstopper_ here.
>> I think I discussed the same argument with Ludovic one month ago, he hoped
>> as I did that within October this would get sorted.
>>
>> But I reluctantly observe that it's always just a few responses then back to
>> the initial Void.
>> I'd firmly appreciate that the answer isn't:<<  time>>; because, aside
>> unacceptable, it would be astonishing.
>>
>> If there's really an objective issue in achieving this *task*, I guess it's
>> really time to _discuss_ about it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Marco


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