[Operators] Out of curiousity... "What about the List?"

Ben Zimmer ben at einfachjabber.de
Tue Nov 22 20:31:38 UTC 2011

You can now find the source-code here:


Installation instructions included :)


On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 13:18, Ben Zimmer <ben at einfachjabber.de> wrote:
> Hi,
> sure, I'll just clean it up/dust it off a little and push it to github
> or something, as soon as possible.
> Ben
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:23, Peter Viskup <skupko.sk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Ben,
>> would it be possible to see the source code of this application?
>> It would be much better to contact Peter Saint-Andre [stpeter<at>stpeter.im]
>> to get quicker response.
>> Best regards,
>> --
>> Peter Viskup
>> On 11/20/2011 10:50 AM, Ben Zimmer wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'l try to sum up the status as of now:
>>> I built an little application, that should make it a lot easier to
>>> process new list-applications in the future, as it automates some of
>>> the steps necessary to verify a new server.
>>> At the moment it has the following features:
>>> * form for server-admins to register their servers
>>> * automatic sending of verification-email with verification-link to
>>> proove email-address is real
>>> * basic check if server is reachable
>>> * check for SRV-records
>>> * check for StartTLS/SSL (this is a bit unreliable at the moment and
>>> would have to be improved)
>>> * export of list ready to import into the current
>>> wordpress-table-format on xmpp.org
>>> I asked if this application could be deployed to the server that hosts
>>> xmpp.org so that it could be integrated in to the page
>>> (http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001219.html).
>>> No answer on that so far.
>>> Regarding the list itself and new applications to it:
>>> We processed all new applications (until today) into this application
>>> and also marked old, non-responding server as not-verified there. I
>>> exported the updated list and imported it to the xmpp-wordpress.
>>> After this I asked if somebody could approve this and make it public,
>>> but as of now, nobody did (see
>>> http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001220.html).
>>> No reaction to this so far.
>>> The update doesn't include new applications, because email and
>>> xmpp-address verification is still to be done here. For this purpose
>>> there was a blogpost planned to inform people about a (mass) email to
>>> be sent out and from which email this would come to prevent
>>> misunderstandings (we cannot use a xmpp.org email-address).
>>> I prepared this blogpost and sent out a request for it to be
>>> proof-read
>>> (http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001218.html),
>>> again without any reaction.
>>> That's about it.
>>> Ben
>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 22:15, Marco Cirillo<maranda at lightwitch.org>
>>>  wrote:
>>>> I think I last mailed asking about it, about 1 month ago...
>>>> But time is still ticking and there's no visible progress.
>>>> And at the cost of wearing a "Troll Mask".
>>>> I'd like to know exactly what's the real _showstopper_ here.
>>>> I think I discussed the same argument with Ludovic one month ago, he
>>>> hoped
>>>> as I did that within October this would get sorted.
>>>> But I reluctantly observe that it's always just a few responses then back
>>>> to
>>>> the initial Void.
>>>> I'd firmly appreciate that the answer isn't:<<  time>>; because, aside
>>>> unacceptable, it would be astonishing.
>>>> If there's really an objective issue in achieving this *task*, I guess
>>>> it's
>>>> really time to _discuss_ about it.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Marco

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