[Operators] Finally *fix* the list-issue

Peter Viskup skupko.sk at gmail.com
Mon Jan 16 17:39:07 UTC 2012

Hi Friedrich,
look - we are waiting for our server to be listed on xmpp.org since 
August of 2009. So this is step forward for us - doesn't matter what is 
the history of jabber.at domain.


On 01/16/2012 06:32 PM, Friedrich Kron wrote:
> Hello Jabber Server Admins,
> I am realy sorry but i can't see any benefit from adding public jabber 
> servers to a private webpage at jabber.at <http://jabber.at>. 
> Hopefully the jabber.at <http://jabber.at> domain will not change the 
> owner and shut down services without warning again (like some years 
> ago). All in all it is not really a nifty cool new public Jabber 
> Server List…
> mit freundlichen Grüßen / kind regards
> Friedrich Kron
> edv dienstschiene
> Mail: friedrich.kron at jaim.at <mailto:friedrich.kron at jaim.at>
> On 16.01.2012, at 15:25, Mathias Ertl wrote:
>> Hi,
>> After years of waiting, delays, ignored offers for help and broken
>> promises, I've finally decided to take this situation into my own hands.
>> Yes, I've written our own tool for maintaining a list:
>> https://list.jabber.at
>> It does (almost) everything automatically, admins only have to enter
>> their data and get feedback on what (if anything) is not right with
>> their servers. JIDs and E-Mail addresses are automatically verified. A
>> simple API that can be used by clients is available.
>> The current list at xmpp.org is in a very bad status:
>> * Only 63 servers are on that list.
>> * None have been added for years, all requests have been ignored.
>> * Its even impossible to *remove* a server.
>> * 6 don't even have SRV records defined.
>> * 4 have some problem with the SSL certificate via TLS netotiation.
>> * At least 2 servers don't even allow inband-registration anymore, the
>> number is probably much higher.
>> * ~10 linked-to pages do not work at all
>> * ~15 pages link to a generic page that does not give any info about the
>> respective service.
>> I therefor urge the XSF to finally ditch their own horrible list and
>> just link to others (i.e. [1] and ours) instead. The fact that the list
>> is unmaintained and many servers do not even work anymore creates a very
>> bad experience for all users. The fact that the illusion of maintenance
>> is kept up frustrates many server-admins.
>> Please finally resolve the situation in a realistic way.
>> greetings, Mati
>> [1] http://www.jabberes.org/servers/
>> -- 
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>> I only read plain-text mail!  I prefer signed/encrypted mail!

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