[Operators] google abandoning XMPP??

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Wed May 22 17:54:11 UTC 2013

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Kim Alvefur <zash at zash.se> wrote:

> On 2013-05-22 18:22, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> > PS: I am wondering whether the claimed chat spam problems mentioned in
> the press articles are actually true?
> It matches what was said before, search this list for "spammy invites".
I'm with PSA on this one - I think it's wild exaggeration, just as branding
all the myriad of domains which federated on good terms as being
"insignificant" was similarly rhetoric.

The single thing that annoys me most about this whole affair is the dubious
passing off of business decisions as technical ones. Sadly, I don't think
this is journalists misquoting - the video footage, for instance, seems

In any case, I've argued before, and will argue again, that Google, by
restricting messaging to only people on the roster, forced their spam issue
on themselves - spammy messages would have been significantly easier to
detect and prevent than spammy subscription requests.

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