[Operators] The Google issue

David Banes david at banes.org
Fri Nov 22 09:11:46 UTC 2013

On 22 Nov 2013, at 08:37, Robert Norris <robn at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013, at 07:29 PM, Eric Koldeweij wrote:
>> On 21-Nov-13 21:20, Solomon Peachy wrote:
>>> I have mixed feelings about this, because I'm the only user on my
>>> server, and only two folks on my roster aren't google-hosted.
>>> Frankly, without Google federation I might as well not bother.
>> I second this. Many of my users have contacts within Google and I do
>> not wish to break connection between them.
> Just to add a datapoint, I will not be doing anything to FastMail's XMPP
> servers to make them unable to communicate with Google. Not that I
> disagree with the goal of getting secure connections everywhere, but I
> have to consider the fact that the vast majority of my users talk to
> people on Google-hosted XMPP accounts. It wouldn't do anything for them
> to cut them off.
> Maybe if we were primarily an XMPP provider it'd be different, but we're
> not - its a secondary service at best. I don't have the time or the
> interest right now to be an activist.
> I know we're not a big provider, and not a free provider, so maybe what
> we do doesn't count for much, but there it is anyway. I am watching the
> whole process closely though. I do hope a workable solution is found!
> Cheers,
> Rob N,
> FastMail.

Same here, we can't cut off paying customers.

Kind Regards,


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