[Standards] Veto on JID Mention (Was: Council minutes 2016-01-20)

Goffi goffi at goffi.org
Thu Mar 17 15:44:59 UTC 2016


Hello,

I still have no details on the reasons of the veto. I would like to implement 
mention in SàT and I don't want to throw the code if we use something totally 
different at the end.

So why the veto? What do I need to change in the XEP to make it pass, or else 
what is the alternative?

Thanks
Goffi


Le mercredi 17 février 2016, 10:38:12 Goffi a écrit :
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Sorry to re-launch the topic, but I still don't know what is wrong with JID
> mention and what I  need to change to avoid the veto. I have had no
> explanation on the veto, and references doesn't replace mention, so there is
> no alternative for now.
> 
> So please tell me the reason of the veto and what I need to change
> 
> Thanks
> Goffi
> 
> Le lundi 8 février 2016, 11:41:22 Goffi a écrit :
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Le jeudi 4 février 2016, 15:57:05 Goffi a écrit :
> > > I've not problem to have this XEP vetoed if there is a more generic
> > > option,
> > > but I'd like to know what it is and how it can replace a jid mention.
> > > 
> > > Also, I still don't see why  "it looks like half a solution".
> > > 
> > > So more information and/or a link to a protoXEP would be welcome
> > 
> > Now that a protoXEP is available, it's a bit more clear.
> > But still I don't see how, and I actually think that "references" does NOT
> > replace JID mention. At best it can complete it.
> > 
> > Actually it corresponds to the "mentioned part" of JID Mention (section
> > 4.5).
> > 
> > Don't take it wrong: I think references is a good move and this was
> > lacking
> > in XMPP, and JID Mention may and probably should use it, but I don't think
> > it's a reason to put a veto on JID Mention as it doesn't replace it at
> > all.
> > 
> > References doesn't show the path, the author or the context of a mention,
> > so I feel the veto a bit unfair in this case.
> > 
> > I would appreciate more explanation
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Goffi
> > 
> > 
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