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Which one to use: `authorization-identity` or `authorization-identifier`

by Andrzej Telezynski

Hello, I am confused about those two elements: `authorization-identity` and `authorization-identifier`. Are they equivalent? They seem to be used in the same context. Grepping the XEPS repo shows both are used: $ grep -rl authorization-identity ./xep-0484.xml ./inbox/xep-fast.xml ./inbox/sasl2.xml ./xep-0386.xml $ grep -rl authorization-identifier ./xep-0480.xml ./inbox/xep-downgrade-prevention.xml ./inbox/xep-scram-upgrade.xml ./inbox/sasl2.xml ./xep-0198.xml ./xep-0388.xml ./xep-0474.xml What confuses me is that they both are used in the same context, f. ex.: "XEP-0386: Bind 2" has `authorization-identity` in successful Bind response: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0386.html#example-4 <success xmlns='urn:xmpp:sasl:2'> <authorization-identity>user(a)example.com/AwesomeXMPP.4232f4d4 </authorization-identity> <bound xmlns='urn:xmpp:bind:0'> <metadata xmlns='urn:xmpp:mam:2'> <start id='YWxwaGEg' timestamp='2008-08-22T21:09:04Z' /> <end id='b21lZ2Eg' timestamp='2020-04-20T14:34:21Z' /> </metadata> </bound> </success> But "XEP-0388: Extensible SASL Profile" uses `authorization-identifier` https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0388.html#example-7 <success xmlns='urn:xmpp:sasl:2'>  <additional-data> dj1tc1ZIcy9CeklPSERxWGVWSDdFbW1EdTlpZDg9 </additional-data> <authorization-identifier>user(a)example.org</authorization-identifier> </success> Is it valid to use `authorization-identifier` in all those cases? What about other XEPS that use `authorization-identity` f. ex. "XEP-0484: Fast Authentication Streamlining Tokens" ? https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0484.html#example-3 It seems that clients need to expect both variants anyway. I am hoping for some advice or clarification, maybe I have missed something. Thanks, Andrzej -- *Come see us at: *Alchemy Conf 2-3 Apr | ElixirConf EU 15-16 May | Code BEAM Lite Stockholm 2 Jun | Lambda Days 12-13 Jun | *Learn more >> <https://www.erlang-solutions.com/events/>* Erlang Solutions cares about your data and privacy; please find all details about the basis for communicating with you and the way we process your data in our Privacy Policy. <https://www.erlang-solutions.com/privacy-policy.html> You can update your email preferences or unsubscribe from all lists here. <https://forms.erlangsolutions.com/email-preference?epc_hash=pZxDpeyjOBLTF6P…>

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New XEP proposal: Spaces

by Nicolas Cedilnik

Hello everyone, I just submitted https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1426 with a rendered version at https://nicoco.fr/inbox/spaces.html This is an attempt at a minimal "spaces XEP". I remember reading a document a long time ago which looked impressively complete but did not turn into a XEP proposal. I suspect this is because the document attempted to cover everything, and there are very different use-cases for spaces, with different permissions models, ranging from fully public to completely private through "some rooms are public but some require being part of a subteam" etc. I tried a different approach here, attempting to lay the foundation of what is the minimum to cluster several groupchats without relying on a dedicated MUC service just for that. The slidge-based gateways for discord, mattermost and matrix already implement listing the "servers", "teams" and "spaces" of these networks via adhoc commands. I would very much like to make this a bit more generic (and standardised!) in slidge "core", the gateway library (and also expose in the disco#info of each room which "space" it is a child of). About the name, I called it "server-side spaces" because I think what Gajim already does with its workspaces is great and should be standardized at some point too, that would be another XEP, maybe "client(or user)-side spaces", later. I already gathered a little feedback from the xsf@ room, and incorporated it in the present submission. Looking forward to reading your feedback. -- nicoco

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Commenting system based on XMPP

by Schimon Jehudah

Greeetings, ladies and gentlemen! First of all, I would want to congratulate Mr. Nicolas Cedilnik (nicoco) for creating a plugin to the publishing system Pelican. Reference: https://codeberg.org/nicoco/pelican-pubsub Second, I would want to create an HTML based commenting system service, and I would be glad to receive your consultancy on how to design it. By that, I mean, to which PubSub nodes should comments be published to. And then I will create a system based upon FastAPI and Slixmpp. P.S. Currently, there are three or four brands that provide commenting systems in a centralized fashion. Kind regards, Schimon

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Transmit of contact photo per Jabber ID

by Schimon Jehudah

Good day! I want to create a weather bot which is not a component. However, I would not be able to make a dynamic use of contact photo, as I would with a component. Because, it is not possible to selectively transmit contact photo. I think, that this would have useful uses to different use-cases, so it would be good to create an XEP to it. Please advise, Schimon

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XSF membership application period Q2 2025

by Alexander Gnauck

I have setup the membership application Wiki page for the application period Q2 2025 Applications are encouraged from developers and others who are actively involved in the Jabber/XMPP community. To apply, create a page about yourself on the Wiki: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q2_2025 If you don't have a wiki account, send your full name, preferred nickname and email address to me or one of the other Sysops: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sysops Apply now!!! Thanks, Alex

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NEW: XEP-0503 (Server-side spaces)

by Daniel Gultsch

Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0503 (Server-side spaces) has been released. Abstract: This document defines an XMPP protocol to cluster several groupchat rooms together. Changelog: Promoted to Experimental (XEP Editor: dg) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0503.html Note: The information in the XEP list at https://xmpp.org/extensions/ is updated by a separate automated process and may be stale at the time this email is sent. The XEP documents linked herein are up-to- date.

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Proposed XMPP Extension: Server-side spaces

by Daniel Gultsch

The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Server-side spaces Abstract: This document defines an XMPP protocol to cluster several groupchat rooms together. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/spaces.html The Council will decide in the next two weeks whether to accept this proposal as an official XEP.

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XMPP Council Agenda 2025-02-25

by Daniel Gultsch

Good Morning Council Members, the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, February 25 2025 at 16:30 UTC in xmpp:council@muc.xmpp.org?join The Agenda is as follows: 1) Roll call 2) Agenda Bashing 3) Editors update * Proposed XMPP Extension: Server-side spaces https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/spaces.html 4) Items for voting a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Server-side spaces https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/spaces.html 5) Pending votes none See the spreadsheet of doom: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oAHUqBdlkobDcmfQ-YRMfZHGQLMWEdOFuEU… 6) Date of Next 7) AOB 8) Close

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LAST CALL: XEP-0484 (Fast Authentication Streamlining Tokens)

by Daniel Gultsch

This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0484. Title: Fast Authentication Streamlining Tokens Abstract: This specification defines a token-based method to streamline authentication in XMPP, allowing fully authenticated stream establishment within a single round-trip. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0484.html This Last Call begins today and shall end at the close of business on 2025-01-27. Please consider the following questions during this Last Call and send your feedback to the standards(a)xmpp.org discussion list: 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol stack or to clarify an existing protocol? 2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction and requirements? 3. Do you plan to implement this specification in your code? If not, why not? 4. Do you have any security concerns related to this specification? 5. Is the specification accurate and clearly written? Your feedback is appreciated!

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Splitting XEP-0455 (Service Outage Status)

by Mathieu Pasquet

Hi everyone, I have been thinking lately about updating XEP-0455 (and getting around to implementing it), and I find the initial semantics that I came up with a bit murky. My plan now is to remove the in-band events and outage planning entirely, to only keep the signaling part (using 0128) and the json format to describe an ongoing outage. I would also update the wording to say that a client should fetch the external address only if it does not manage to connect to the server. This way, the XEP will do one thing and do it quite efficiently, and the in-band events and planning can go into another XEP without being constrained by the requirements for (complete and ongoing) outages from 0455. Writing this to the list to collect some thoughts on the matter, or if anyone would be more interested in implementing this reduced version. Cheers, mathieui

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