[Standards] Council Minutes 2020-05-27

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Tue Jun 2 09:41:25 UTC 2020

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 17:20, Marvin W <xmpp at larma.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> Sorry, long mail ahead.
> I'd like to express that I am very much unhappy where this is leading.

Thanks for writing this; it's an excellent summary of where we are, and
seems to have sparked some more constructive debate. (In other words, it's
what I attempted and failed to do!)

> So my conclusion:
> - We can add the opt-out flag to 0393. Supporting it is SHOULD on the
> recipient side and support for adding it is a MAY on the sender side.
> Making support a MUST both on sending and receiving side is unrealistic
> due to it just not being possible through transports and currently
> deployed encryption.
> - We put our energy into building a replacement (being it 0394 or
> something completely different) instead of using it to make 0393 less
> useful to harm its adoption.

I think the latter is correct, but I'm interested in exploring Kev's
proposal around the former.

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