28 Jan
2025
28 Jan
'25
8:44 a.m.
Hi, me again,
I'd like to propose this as input to summit. I think we should drive this
forward and make progress, which means:
1. adopting a more modern CoC (as linked within this thread) and/or adapting
our CoC to more explicitly promote safety of marginalized groups,
2. AND: actually enforcing the CoC in our venues (these days mostly jdev@
sticks out as potentially problematic; switching operators@ to moderated with
auto-voicing of actual operators definitely helped there, even though it's not
perfect).
If either of these two things does not happen rather soon-ish, the already
existing invisible division I mentioned in the thread will become very very
apparent, potentially causing a fork in the community.
Mind that I am *not* available for driving this forward (except by copying a
(to me) known-good CoC into XEP-0458 with minor changes to be immediately
approved by Board), for one simple reason: I am tired of fighting windmills in
this organization. I have tried as Editor, and I've tried here. Maybe we have
a silent majority which supports the change this organization needs (in my
opinion, anyway), but maybe not. If we do have that majority, I would love for
the people to raise their voices in threads like these.
kind regards,
Jonas
On Donnerstag, 25. April 2024 18:01:20 MEZ Jonas Schäfer wrote:
Hi everyone,
Going through the CoC again, I notice that it has a few gaps we should
probably address.
While the current wording explicitly prohibits racist language, there are a
lot of other *-isms which are unfortunately quite present in various spaces
on the XMPP network and which sometimes roll into XSF rooms.
I do not think that we want to be perceived as, for instance, an
anti-LGBTQIA+ community, so we should extend the CoC to:
a) send the clear message to the world that we won't tolerate behaviour
that, and
b) give our moderators (that includes me in some places) the necessary
holding to enforce when necessary
Concretely, I propose that we add to 2.4 Be respectful, the following items
on
the list of things to avoid:
- Use of racist, misogynistic, anti-trans,
anti-gay, ableist slurs, or
other>
derogatory pejoratives for oppressed identity groups against such
groups.
- Blatantly racist, casteist, ableist, sexist, anti-trans, or otherwise
offensive and bigoted discourse.
In addition, before the list of things to avoid, I would like to add:
Respect others requests for space. That includes
to disengage from a
discourse if your partner(s) indicate that they do not want to discuss a
topic any further. It is not easy to let someone be "wrong" on the
internet, but boundaries are there to be respected.
To section 2.5 ("Be friendly and supportive"), I would like to add after the
first paragraph:
This includes being mindful of the abilities of
others; nobody is born an
expert in anything and we all had to learn at some point. Be supportive of
newcomers and learners. Do not be patronizing or condescending.
I may propose a PR against XEP-0458, but before doing so I wanted to offer
this for discussion on this list.
kind regards,
Jonas