Hi Ralph, I think you've diagnosed this more sharply than I did. Would you write it up? I've taken the prior-art survey; this seems like the more important half. Kind regards, Guus On Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 1:22 PM Ralph Meijer <ralphm@ik.nu> wrote:
On 08/07/2026 13.09, Guus der Kinderen wrote:
Hi Ralph,
I agree Council is not fully responsible, and I'd support saying so explicitly. However, I think that XEP-0001 is already quite explicit in this (requiring rough consensus, running code, Council approval reads like the "shared responsibility" that we're talking about). I'm not sure there's a gap.
If you think the current _understanding_ differs from the current text, that seems worth saying out loud on the list.
My understanding of how it should work (and worked during my 8 year tenure) is supported by what we have written down, but mostly focused on the perspective of an author. I increasingly feel that the current Council and Standards-JIG in general do not, as evidenced by the discussions on Experimental vs. Draft, the topic at hand, and perceived pressure on the work of the Editors and Council.
Our procedures are not very explicit about what is expected of Council or Editors, i.e. how to review and what the responsibility for the outcome is.
ralphm
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