Thanks for the rewrite!
While I still think this is a lost opportunity to mandate 'tls-exporter'
for the XMPP eco-system, I think the new text is reasonable and does
encourage use of 'tls-exporter'.
This all still feels to me similar that we mandate DES or RC4 because
there are some environments that doesn't implement AES. I think at some
point, the reasonable reaction isn't to mandate DES/RC4 but to say
"sorry, you really ought to change and use AES". But I also realize
there are different view-points on this, and the text seems like a
reasonable compromise.
However, I suggest to drop 'or tls-unique' from this sentence:
Tls-server-end-point was picked, because it is the lowest denominator
that can be implemented by virtually everyone and even though it isn't
as strong as tls-exporter or tls-unique,
since tls-unique has known weaknesses:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9266#section-1
and doesn't work with TLS 1.3, so tls-unique requires TLS 1.2 which is
generally less secure than TLS 1.3.
Thus, I think that in some environments, even tls-server-end-point could
be considered more secure than tls-unique.
If people migrate away from tls-server-end-point, they should migrate to
tls-exporter, and not consider tls-unique. I think the sentence gives
the wrong impression regarding this.
/Simon
Daniel Gultsch <daniel(a)gultsch.de> writes:
Hi,
with my editor hat on please note that a new version of this XEP has
been published that should address some of the concerns.
Also with my editor hat on I’m taking the liberty to extend the LC by
another week to give people time to review the new version.
With my council hat on I’m considering the endpoint v exporter
concerns addressed. This is both due to the new Business rules that
clearly outline the benefits of a common (minimum) binding mechanism
and due to some discussions that happened in the kitten WG. The
(somewhat related) discussion on Kitten revolved around deprecating
endpoint in favor exporter at which multiple people spoke out against
this.
cheers
Daniel
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