7 Oct
2025
7 Oct
'25
10:27 p.m.
Hi Schimon,
There are many people on this list, with their own interests. I would
not discourage them from contributing in their own ways: even if you
don't think this is an interesting problem, they might.
At to Atom Over XMPP, that was a somewhat experimental idea at the time
and IIRC we didn't really push it forward. So I would not judge an
entire organization (IETF) and the people involved in it today because
of something that happened in 2008. Also, the IETF *did* publish all the
core XMPP RFCs, and that has to count for something, no?
Peter
On 10/7/25 2:06 PM, Schimon Jehudah wrote:
While I do appreciate some of the publication of IETF,
I do not think
that it deserves any attention, especially not our attention, of the
people of XMPP, for the IETF has rejected Atomsub (Atom Over XMPP).
I do sense, that we should further incorporate more PPN (Peer-to-peer
Network) means into XMPP, and let thise "HTTP people" to "play" with
their own "soup", for a lack of a better phrase.
Lest forget that in the past those organizations have formed the
"Peer-to-peer Working Group" (peer-to-peerwg.org) in order to gradually
suppress P2P, not to promote it.
Schimon
On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 13:42:31 -0600
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter(a)stpeter.im> wrote:
> No, the subject line of this message is not a joke. :-)
>
> The IETF has formed a "TIPTOP" working group to study and adapt
> Internet protocols for communication over interplanetary distances.
> [1] If anyone here is interested in this topic, I encourage you read
> their documents [2] and sign up for their email discussion list [3].
>
> Thanks for your attention!
>
> Peter
>
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/tiptop/about/
> [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/tiptop/documents/
> [3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/deepspace/
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