11 Nov
2025
11 Nov
'25
12:55 p.m.
Everything old is new. I've worked on this quite extensively at Mediamatic in
2008-2011. Have a look at <https://ralphm.net/blog/2011/02> and
<https://ralphm.net/publications/fosdem_2011/>.
On 11 November 2025 10:13:41 CET, Schimon Jehudah <sch(a)fedora.email> wrote:
Good day
I have elaborated about it to the Movim project.
https://github.com/movim/movim/issues/1488
And I have two additional rationals.
* Utilizing Activity Streams would allow to set icons and photos to
Atom Over XMPP feeds, which is currently not possible because Atom
Over XMPP only include element "atom:entry", and does not include
element "atom:feed".
* Utilizing Activity Streams would also to set a different icon and
photo representations by *context* (e.g. family, sports, traveling,
exploring, et cetera).
And this is an argument for future concerns.
* As with Atom Over XMPP (XEP-0277 and XEP-0472), some people might
justly ask for RSS Over XMPP; and adopting Atom Activity Streams
would significantly assist in refuting an argument to add a new XEP
for RSS Over XMPP.
Kindly,
Schimon
On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 08:36:38 +0200
Schimon Jehudah <sch(a)fedora.email> wrote:
Good day.
I have explored the "Atom Activity Streams" documents of Friendica.
https://activitystrea.ms/specs/atom/1.0/
I have further added rendering capabilities to an RSS extension.
https://greasyfork.org/scripts/465932-newspaper-syndication-feed-reader
Proposal
--------
Since Atom Activity Streams documents can be delivered as a single
"atom:entry" element, as so with XMPP PubSub Node Items; then, it
might be beneficial to mention "Atom Activity Streams" in the XEP
specifications of Atom Over XMPP (XEP-0277 and XEP-0472).
Rational
--------
Even though, as it seems, an Atom Activity Streams document is, as
with Atom Over XMPP, a single "atom:entry" element, with a couple of
XML namespaces, this would stimulate people to:
* Utilize XMPP PubSub Node Items in an independent fashion, without
compiling an Atom Syndication Format document; and
* Consider interoperability with Friendica and other platforms that
produce Atom Activity Streams documents, and also Json Activity
Streams documents, which Nostr utilizes.
* Consider interoperability of projects with XMPP.
* Motivate projects, such as Friendica to extend support of XMPP.
XML Namespace
-------------
The namespaces that are utilized by Friendica, and may be relevant,
are:
xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
xmlns:at="http://purl.org/atompub/tombstones/1.0"
xmlns:activity="http://activitystrea.ms/spec/1.0/"
xmlns:dfrn="http://purl.org/macgirvin/dfrn/1.0"
xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss"
xmlns:media="http://purl.org/syndication/atommedia"
xmlns:ostatus="http://ostatus.org/schema/1.0"
xmlns:poco="http://portablecontacts.net/spec/1.0"
xmlns:statusnet="http://status.net/schema/api/1/"
xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0"
Sample
------
Herein attached an Atom Activity Streams document. Source:
https://my-place.social/display/feed-item/107999490.atom
https://my-place.social/display/1c9fc4fa-f51b9f6f654d0bd7-7c3a0251
https://piaille.fr/@movim/115519544289510132
Kind regards,
Schimon
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