[Foundation] Jabber Klatch: Discuss .org server role

Max Metral Max.Metral at peoplepcHQ.com
Thu Aug 9 10:12:12 CDT 2001


No, not all do.  AOL, MSN for example (not that they matter in this case).
PeoplePC, large but not at that scale, doesn't either.  Nobody wants to have
max at colorado.peoplepc.com...

-----Original Message-----
From: johnston at megaepic.com [mailto:johnston at megaepic.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:06 AM
To: members at jabber.org
Subject: Re: [Foundation] Jabber Klatch: Discuss .org server role


Well, large ISPs usually break things down into cities and stuff, no? I
mean, @home sure does. Could we design a gateway server that keeps records
of what user is on what server and forwards appropriatly?

Mat.

On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 07:26:20AM -0700, Max Metral wrote:
> Your example works for internal use maybe, but what about an ISP with a
> couple hundred thousand users, or EBay or any of those sorts?  Right now
> .org is not an option for that.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: johnston at megaepic.com [mailto:johnston at megaepic.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:09 AM
> To: members at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation] Jabber Klatch: Discuss .org server role
> 
> 
> Well, large organizations tend to be just that, organizations... generally
> there have already been divisions made up between departments and offices,
> etc. In this respect, the jabber system scales pretty well (even though
one
> particular server may not) since you can have user at dept.company.com or
> something along those lines. It would of course be good to improve the
> server whenever possible, but a huge number of users do not need to be
> supported as an inital design goal; rather, a more appropriate design goal
> would be to minimize the effort required to improve upward scalability
> should it be required. What kinds of things would stop the jabber server
> from scaling to large user counts? If these things are identified, why can
> they not be fixed? Are there large compromises between management effort
and
> scalability?
> 
> Mat.
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