[Foundation] Bootstrapping the Foundation

Rich Braman - Audiencebank Rich at audiencebank.com
Thu Jun 14 15:19:05 CDT 2001

Why were SOAP/XML-RPC and other types of messages (other than text) left out
of the JIGS? Will these become JEPS? There were a number of other JIGS
mentioned at the first meeting that are no longer there as well.

Do we have descriptions of each of the JIGS so we can know what were voting
on when the time comes? 
Whats the status of the voting system? Who is programming it?  Where is
being hosted? Is any additional help needed to complete it?

Richard Braman 

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael J. Emswiler
To: members at jabber.org
Sent: 6/14/01 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation] Bootstrapping the Foundation

This whole voting thing sounds like a perfect Jabber Application waiting


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Bauer" <bauer at jabber.com>
To: <members at jabber.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:44 PM
Subject: [Foundation] Bootstrapping the Foundation

> As with any bootstrapping process, we are faced with something of a
> in establishing the Foundation.  Decisions need to be made about the
> operation of the Foundation but the formal process for making those
> decisions is not yet in place.  For example, the draft by-laws are
> modified to formally incorporate the technical decision-making body
> the "Jabber Council" within the Jabber Foundation.  According to the
> draft by-laws, however, the Board of Directors should bring forward
> resolutions to change the by-laws and then such changes are voted on
> Membership.  Without a Board of Directors, this is a little hard to
> In addition, we have 94 members currently signed up as Members of the
> Foundation.  We've been holding weekly text conferences that have been
> attended by roughly around 20 people.  Some "decisions" are being made
> these forums that might not be appropriate since we don't have a
> all Members in these meetings.  Add to that the by-laws need to be
> again to even allow meetings to be "legally" conducted through
> means we're not even clear we can even have these meetings!
> In some sense, all this is moot because the Foundation hasn't even
> formally incorporated.  Regardless of when the Foundation is
> there seems to be a lot of good coming from these meetings and the
> mailing list.  We're developing a protocol enhancement process.  We're
> establishing a set of focused interest groups.  We're adopting a
> review and approval process.  Frankly, no matter how the Foundation
> ultimately ends up, the mere process of formulating it is providing
> lasting value.
> So, I for now, if anyone has any major issues they'd like the Members
> vote on, let's do that.  There are a few issues that I know need to go
> before the Members - like, should we put some further requirements on
> need for Members participation or should we allow the Jabber Council
> decide what JIGs are established.  If you have anymore, let me know.
> The first vote I'd like to put forward is whether this concept of
> major issues is a good place to start!
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