[Foundation] Re: jabber.com for president

John Hebert john at vedalabs.com
Fri Jun 29 11:16:32 CDT 2001

6/29/01 2:49:38 AM, "Barry Lee" <bglee at sltscommunications.net> wrote:

I defer to Julian Missig's excellent reply to most of your comments. I did feel
a need to reply to the following:

>I noticed yesterday when Stephen Lee posted his comments that the first
>e-mails returned were from Jabber.com employees and they refered to other
>employees comments. It is and will be very hard to believe the b____ that
>this employees are all their own persons and their paycheck does not
>influence their decisions.

The reason _I_ didn't reply immediately was that I wanted to see if that thread
would be ignored and let die first, which I felt it should. And the reason that
Jabber.com employees responded in the number that they did was that even
I saw Stephen Lee's post as a personal attack on their integrity as individuals
contributing to the Jabber project while being lucky enough to have a business
pay for it. Your message falls into the same category of personal attack on
Jabber.com employees.

I work for a company that allows me and other developers to work at least
part-time producing open source software and sees the business sense of
using OSS (Apache, Jakarta, PostgreSQL, Linux) in a production environment.
My company doesn't tell me what to do, we discuss and come to an agreement
on what to do. If I didn't think my employer was contributing to the whole
OSS effort, I would walk. I'll bet that the Jabber.com employees in question
feel the same way.

>You would think that the people at jabber.com would have realized the
>concerns that the membership at large would have and correct the situation
>before it went this far.

I count only you and Stephen Lee so far in opposition. Myself and more members
who are not Jabber.com employees have already posted in support of Jabber.com
and the elected members of the Jabber Foundation Council. I do not this as a


John Hebert
System Engineer
Changing your state of mind through sound. 

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