[Foundation] Jabber Name

Harold E. Gottschalk Jr. heg at sirlabs.com
Thu May 17 11:38:58 CDT 2001

Charter Members,

I have read all the discussions about the Jabber name and find it quite
unproductive.  Jabber.com purchased the trademark, they own it and can
regulate any way they choose, it is their prerogative.

Who cares that the name is jabber or not jabber, if the foundation is
responsible for the development of the future protocol, servers and clients
that is what matters.  What matters is that we build the best reference
implementation of the protocols we design.

Today Jabber.com has an advantage over the rest of the world and they will
evangelize in our favor.  They deserve that advantage.  But their advantage
will fade as the foundation grows stronger. Jabber.com will become more
dependent on the foundation in the future if we make ourselves pervasive.

Why not separate ourselves now from Jabber, call the foundation Jabelin.org
apply for the trademarks, etc.  We will not loose anything by doing this,
but gain our own image and stand for the ideals, we as a group want to have.
If Jabelin is unavailable we can choose something different. My point here
is that we need to become independent as a foundation and as an

It is nice that Jabber.com is willing to foot the initial cost of
incorporating the foundation.  I hope that the entity being created will be
a totally independent of Jabber.com the company and that they retain no
ownership in the foundation.  If the entity is owned by Jabber.com we will
not have the independence we seek. We should then seek to form an
independent foundation.

Will jabber.com retain ownership in the Jabber.org Foundation?  This is very
important for us to find out.

The purpose of the foundation should be to foster the best possible
solutions for our protocol, to evangelize it, to foster commercial growth
around it.  There is nothing wrong with any of us making money from the work
of the foundation.  If we become independent now we can grow the foundation
into an entity that can support itself, via the licensing of our name, etc.

Lets stop the name bickering and concentrate on what is important.  What is
important Today is that this foundation:
1) be independent,
2) get organized,
3) be worthy to control the future of what we call Jabber(it's just a name).

Lets work together to make sure the foundation is built to support the long
term objectives, to be independent, to have a de facto protocol, to have the
best references implementations of our designs, to have goals and project
that foster the best minds to collaborate.


Harold E. Gottschalk Jr.

"If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it." - Albert

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