[Foundation] TM Discussion via Business JIG

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Wed May 23 16:04:59 CDT 2001

All JIGs should and will be formed through the Jabber Foundation. The 
Trademark/Branding JIG or whatever we call it will *not* be a temporary 
JIG formed at the discretion of Jabber.com, it will be a full JIG that 
will function independently under the sole auspices of the Jabber 
Foundation. All JIG online conferences and mailing lists will be logged 
and archived for public review. We will not have anything happening in 
huggermugger! (Sorry, just had to slip in that Shakespeare reference... :)

As I understand it, Michael Bauer will be coming up with a jabber.com 
proposal that will be presented to the Foundation for review by this 
independent JIG. He is *not* creating the Foundation's policy here.

We -- the members of the Jabber Foundation -- need to come up with 
procedures for the formation of JIGs. Let's keep it simple at first, but 
it needs to be an open process and must not involve just emailing 
someone. Does anyone know how working groups are formed in the 
foundations for Apache, Python, GNOME, etc.? I'll try to do some 
research on this here soon.


Peter Saint-Andre
stpeter at jabber.org

David Iodice wrote:

> please include me on the Business JIG list.
> I don't think taking the issue off the general membership
> list is a good thing. From what I've seen, most people are
> not supportive of j.c having any control of the TM but be
> granted a license to use those brands that you currently
> sell.
> Since you are making the document, I can only assume it will
> still contain a lot of control over the TM by Jabber.com.
> And since you have unilaterally made the decision to take
> the issue off the list to a temporary JIG and what looks
> like control of the membership of the JIG (since we have to
> ask you to be on it), it could be construed by those who may
> not know you that you are trying to better your (and
> Jabber.com's) position on the TM issue. (pardon my long
> run-on sentence)
> I can't wait to see the next round of negotiations :-)
> David
> -----Original Message-----
> From: members-admin at jabber.org
> [mailto:members-admin at jabber.org]On
> Behalf Of Michael Bauer
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 3:54 PM
> To: ''members at jabber.org' '
> Subject: [Foundation] TM Discussion via Business JIG
> At the tail-end of the conference I made the following
> decision.  I'm going
> to put together a detailed description of how the mark can
> be used.  This
> document will essentially describe the licensing from j.c.
> to j.o. for tm
> usage for now.  We're going to discuss this document in a
> temporary "Jabber
> Interest Group" called the Business JIG.  If you're
> interested in getting
> involved in this list, send me email separately.  We're
> going to try to take
> this out of the general Members discussion right now because
> that needs to
> focus on getting the Foundation setup and functioning.
> We'll parallel the
> tm transfer issue for now.  We want to get something going
> now and resolve
> the individual concerns immediately.  So, let me know if you
> want on this
> list.
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