[Foundation] Council Questions

Julian Missig julian at jabber.org
Wed Aug 7 23:01:49 CDT 2002


David Waite wrote:
> 
> Julian Missig wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, I feel the need to respond to this part. MSN Messenger clients 
>> that are included with XP (and all version 4.6+ I believe (not sure)) 
>> do have support for "SIMPLE" -- yes, IM over SIP. It's based off of a 
>> draft from earlier this year/late last year, I believe, but it is 
>> SIMPLE. The problem, however, is that SIMPLE does leave a lot of 
>> things "up to implementation" -- and Microsoft definitely took 
>> advantage of that at points -- they also blatantly didn't follow the 
>> specification in other areas (two sockets are required when talking to 
>> the server, for example). I'm just trying to prevent false rumors 
>> about the competition. :)
> 
> 
> So the better question would be - _when_ does MSN Messenger use 
> MS/SIMPLE? What is the magic trick to get it to talk to other MSN users 
> with SIMPLE?

Probably whenever Microsoft gets around to releasing their servers. I 
think the point is more that Microsoft can sell a company a SIMPLE 
server and have MSN Messenger talk to their SIMPLE server internally. 
But that's just speculation on my part.

Julian
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