[Foundation] Criteria, Voting, Membership What does it mean?

Harold E. Gottschalk Jr. heg at imissary.com
Fri Mar 8 16:43:42 CST 2002


Dave,
One reason that most JIGS were suggested to be disbanded was due to lack of
participation. I am guilty.
heg

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> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 2:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Foundation] Criteria, Voting, Membership What does it
> mean?
>
>
> ...but I thought we were going to disband almost all the JIGs???
>
>  - Dave
>
>
> Julian Missig wrote:
> >
> > I think he's talking about Jabber Interest Groups. He wants each member
> > to belong to at least one JIG. Which is pretty reasonable... if you want
> > to be a foundation member, you have to have some interest area you can
> > contribute to :)
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 16:56, Dave wrote:
> > > > * Must belong to at least 1 interested group
> > > What do you mean by that, exactly?
> > >
> > > Dave Cohen <dave at dave.tj>
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold E. Gottschalk Jr. wrote:
> > > >
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> > > > 15 months has passed since I have been peering in on the
> Jabber World.  I
> > > > have found jabbers momentum to be significantly stronger, 3
> books, soon to
> > > > be in print or already are.  JSF has been created during
> this  period of
> > > > time and we admitted anyone standing around the jabber
> round table in.
> > > >
> > > > JSF is a year old and we have  this vote to let  new people
> in, but why?
> > > > What is required to be a member? Why should we let them
> participate, when it
> > > > is not clear how I or others should participate.  What
> should be required of
> > > > me to be part of this foundation? Missing 3 votes is a low
> expectation of
> > > > participation for our members?  It may be adequate to
> discard the chaff, but
> > > > I propose more than that as the expectation of a member.
> > > >
> > > > I must take a page from "JFK" Ask not what JSF can do for
> you, but what can
> > > > You do for JSF.  So lets think about that, I am a busy
> individual like the
> > > > rest of you.  It is not always clear on how best to spend a
> few extra cycles
> > > > on the JSF.  I would like to suggest that we increase the
> expectation of
> > > > what it means to be a member.  If we formalize what it
> means and what is
> > > > expected, then  we can review a candidate member in a more
> objective manner.
> > > >
> > > > Some ideas on membership types and expectation of members.
> > > >
> > > > * Two-types of members, Voting and non-voting.
> > > > * Must belong to at least 1 interested group
> > > >
> > > > This is not a long list, just a start, what are your
> feelings about this?
> > > >
> > > > heg
> > > > Harold E. Gottschalk Jr.
> > > > JSF Member
> > > >
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> > > > is required to be a member? Why should&nbsp;we let them
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> > > > me to be part of this foundation? Missing 3 votes is a low
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> > > > take a page=20
> > > > from "JFK" Ask not what JSF can do for you, but what can
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> > > > So lets think about that, I am a busy individual like the rest of =
> > > > you.&nbsp; It=20
> > > > is not always clear on how best to spend a few extra cycles on the =
> > > > JSF.&nbsp; I=20
> > > > would like to suggest that we increase the expectation of
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> > > > member.&nbsp; If we formalize what it means and what is expected, =
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> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>heg<BR>Harold E. Gottschalk =
> > > > Jr.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN
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> > > > Member</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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