[Foundation] voting update

Terry Smelser tsmelser at sltscommunications.net
Mon Mar 11 21:35:32 CST 2002


And this has what to do with the fact that drivel is drivel??  It occurs to
me that while a little bit of color is harmless and perhaps even useful,
some of us just don't have the time for it.  I have been getting PILES of
foundation mail here as of late, little of it has been worth the drive space
it consumes.

  And NO I would not consider removing myself from the lists, because just
by accident, something that I might really want to read may come though. The
Foundation, so far, has taken on all of the qualities of a "good ole boys
club" and not much else.

Example:

 We here at slts (myJabber) do NOT use the Powered by Jabber logos, there is
a copyright violation involved in using them. It was and IS the foundation's
position to resolve that issue. Instead, the leadership of it (in this case
YOU) has seen fit to reprimand a member for stating his opinion, while
defending others for stating theirs. Or at least exercising their right to
free speech.



Let's get on the ball here and resolve a few issues that affect all of us,
instead of an issue that involved ONE person.



I have NO doubt that Peter and DJ have contributed an amazing amount to the
Jabber Community; in fact I am quite sure of it.  I have received a lot of
help, both directly and indirectly from both of them. AND from a lot of
other guys that are not perhaps as high profile as these two. A lot of us
have contributed in many ways, Steve Lee and I wrote a book that will
release next week, (Hungry Minds)  I can't wait to get a chance to Read DJ's
book, But we at slts can achieve more in a part time afternoon, (we still
have jobs) than frankly the foundation has achieved  from the time of it's
inception.



Never the less, we are either a community or we are not. Most of us are
treating this as a business now days, we don't have time for drivel,
regardless of WHO is responsible for it.



My 2 pence, or cents or EURO whatever's..



Terry Smelser

Systems Specialist

sltsCommunications.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Bauer" <bauer at michaelbauer.com>
To: <members at jabber.org>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Foundation] voting update


>
> Lighten up, Barry.  If Peter (who recently submitted an IETF draft for
> Jabber) wants to ask what two pence is worth and DJ (who wrote the first
> book on Jabber) wants to answer him, they can damn well go ahead and do
> that.  People with a track record of making selfless contributions to the
> community are entitled to providing a little color for the rest of us.
>
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Barry G Lee wrote:
>
> > Why waste members time with this kind of jibber. Most of the membership
> > want to better the Jabber world and I think people will tend to stop
> > reading if there is so much garbage and there are important issues at
hand.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Barry G Lee
> >
> > > 3 cents US
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: members-admin at jabber.org [mailto:members-admin at jabber.org]On
> > >> Behalf Of DJ Adams
> > >> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:49 AM
> > >> To: members at jabber.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [Foundation] voting update
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:47:06PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > >> > > 2p
> > >> >
> > >> > How much *is* a pence, anyway? :)
> > >>
> > >> Well, it's more than two Eurocents, anyway, and that's all that
> > >> matters to me ;-)
> > >>
> > >> dj
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