[Foundation] Criteria, Voting, Membership What does it mean?

Thomas Muldowney temas at box5.net
Mon Mar 11 23:47:26 CST 2002

I think part of it is the fact that JSF gatherings (since they aren't
legally meetings), every Wed are open to the public.  Almost every week
a fairly important issue is raised and discussed.  If you wanted to be
in the JSF it's very simple to begin attending these meetings and
actively making your voice heard.  Yes I agree it's important to have
these types of people included in the community and the JSF, but they
have to be willing to fully contribute, and not just blow a whistle
every once in a while.  Part of being a true member of any community, is
being active in it.


On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 23:45, Stephen Pendleton wrote:
> My feeling is that if we can get people on board who can provide guidance or
> insight on issues such as how service providers can integrate Jabber into
> their offerings, the community is much better off. I would like to see
> Jabber as a commercial success, and that would be a powerful contribution.
> Perhaps the JSF is not the appropriate place for that, but with that type of
> input it will be easier to make technical decisions about Jabber's future.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: members-admin at jabber.org [mailto:members-admin at jabber.org]On
> Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:20 AM
> To: members at jabber.org
> Subject: RE: [Foundation] Criteria, Voting, Membership What does it
> mean?
> Right now the members of the JSF are *individuals*, not organizations.
> Those individuals need not make a technical contribution (e.g., end-user
> howto docs are not technical IMHO), but they need to make a contribution
> to the Jabber community, IMHO. There is definitely a place in the Jabber
> ecosystem for purely commercial enterprises, I'm just not sure that being
> purely commercial entitles representatives of an organization to be
> members of the JSF if they have not made any kind of public contribution
> (JEPs, howtos, code, what have you). Or so it seems to me right now.
> Peter
> --
> Peter Saint-Andre
> email+jabber: stpeter at jabber.org
> weblog: http://www.saint-andre.com/blog/
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Stephen Pendleton wrote:
> >
> > My main issue with the below criteria is that they exclude those people
> who
> > do contribute to the Jabber effort, but not in a technical way. Is the
> > intention of the JSF to provide solely technical guidance to the
> community?
> > It would be useful to have representation on the JSF that includes
> > individuals from organizations pushing to move Jabber further into the
> > commercial world.
> >
> > Thank You,
> > Stephen Pendleton
> >
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Would it be possible to come up with objective ways to measure the extent
> > of an individual's contributions to the Jabber community? Here are some
> > possibilities:
> >
> > 1. JEPs accepted by the JEP Editor
> > 2. Substantive comments made within the Standards JIG
> > 3. Questions answered on JDEV or JADMIN
> > 4. Documents produced (howtos, whitepapers, etc.)
> > 5. Community services provided (e.g., JabberStudio, JabberCentral)
> > 6. Code contributed (to your own project or someone else's)
> >
> >
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