[Foundation] Draft Jabber Software Foundation Membership Qualification Requirements

Michael Bauer bauer at michaelbauer.com
Thu Mar 28 17:34:56 CST 2002


Ah, I was a little confused.  When you said "members that are unable to 
commit constantly" seemed to assume that someone was already a Member and 
had reached a point where they couldn't commit anymore.  Hence the 
confering of an Emeritus status.  If you're talking about someone who 
hasn't been confirmed as a member yet, then I understand.  We had 
considered someone like this to be a "Provisional Member" which seemed to 
more accurately represent their, well, provisional status.

I understand and appreciate the kind of structure you're advocating, Heg.  
Just as a philosophical point, we tried to keep things as simple as 
possible.  We weren't sure what other benefits would accrue to these 
Associate/Provisional Members.  The point was that someone worked on a 
project, whether related to the Foundation or not, then they had something 
to put on their application for Membership.  Besides, as Peter can attest, 
it's hard enough to keep track of just the Members themselves.  Also, such 
a change would constitute an ammendment to the By-Laws which is a hassle 
in and of itself.  

Documenting the membership requirements is great (still wonder what 
happened to the original statements).  I'd just caution on going overboard 
in putting more structure in place.  We tried to take the best of Apache 
and Gnome and do only that which was sufficient and necessary with respect 
to the requirements of a legally incorporated not-for-profit organization.

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Harold E. Gottschalk Jr. wrote:

> I think that "Emeritus Members" is an honorary membership for doing
> goods works for the organization as a former member or non-member.
> I see an "Associate Member" as one that may be involved on a project
> related to the foundation and working towards the voting member status.
> 
> heg
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: members-admin at jabber.org 
> > [mailto:members-admin at jabber.org] On Behalf Of Michael Bauer
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:33 PM
> > To: members at jabber.org
> > Subject: RE: [Foundation] Draft Jabber Software Foundation 
> > Membership Qualification Requirements
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The "Associate Member" catagory is already accounted for as "Emeritus 
> > Members".
> > 
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Harold E. Gottschalk Jr. wrote:
> > 
> > > Barry,
> > > I have the nominating requirement on the issues to resolve 
> > list, so we 
> > > have that seconded to resolve.
> > >  
> > > I like the "Continuing" word instead of Renewing. The voting 
> > > requirement is our current policy which I find it is fine 
> > as a part of 
> > > a comprehensive set of requirements to continue your membership.  I 
> > > think that a bi-yearly review of a members participation is 
> > valuable 
> > > for the foundation and the member.  It places a larger 
> > commitment on a 
> > > member and would therefore assist the foundation by adding 
> > > expectations of the membership.
> > >  
> > > Maybe we should have two kinds of members, current members become 
> > > voting members, members that are unable to commit to the foundation 
> > > constantly could be associate members.  What do you Barry 
> > and the rest 
> > > of the group think of that?
> > >  
> > > Great Input, Thanks
> > > heg
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: members-admin at jabber.org [mailto:members-admin at jabber.org] On 
> > > Behalf Of Barry G. Lee
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:08 AM
> > > To: members at jabber.org
> > > Subject: RE: [Foundation] Draft Jabber Software Foundation 
> > Membership 
> > > Qualification Requirements
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Well done Harold
> > >  
> > > I would like to put forward two changes for consideration.
> > >  
> > > 1: In the who is eligible section. Remove "nominated by an existing 
> > > member and then". If there is a membership committee, they 
> > will weed 
> > > out people who are simply joiners and no potential contribution to 
> > > JSF. This would not preclude recommendations from an 
> > existing member 
> > > at time of voting.
> > >  
> > > 2: Replace the entire "Renewing your membership" with the following:
> > >  
> > >     "Continuing your membership
> > >  
> > >     Membership in the Jabber Software Foundation is ongoing 
> > as long as 
> > > the member stays active. An active member is one who does not miss 
> > > three consecutive votes in the Jabber Software Foundation. If the 
> > > member misses three consecutive votes, their membership in 
> > the jabber 
> > > Software Foundation will be automatically terminated. 
> > Former members 
> > > may file a new application for membership".
> > >  
> > > Note: The process for renewal as first suggested would be very time 
> > > consuming for a membership committee and by using the 
> > proposed change 
> > > would give participation to only active members. The membership 
> > > committee would be dealing only with new applications.
> > >  
> > > Regards
> > >  
> > > Barry
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: members-admin at jabber.org [mailto:members-admin at jabber.org] On 
> > > Behalf Of Harold E. Gottschalk Jr.
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:28 PM
> > > To: members at jabber.org
> > > Subject: [Foundation] Draft Jabber Software Foundation Membership 
> > > Qualification Requirements
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have completed the first draft of the membership requirements.  
> > > Please find it on http://www.jabber.org/proposed/heg-idea.html for 
> > > your review. I took the basic text from Gnome and added some of our 
> > > discussions to it.
> > >  
> > > I would like to see some constructive criticism, additions, etc.
> > >  
> > > Thanks for your assistance in helping us define such a policy.
> > >  
> > > heg
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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