[Foundation] a simple reform
johannes.wagener at gmx.net
johannes.wagener at gmx.net
Sat Apr 12 07:15:40 CDT 2003
yeah, I like this idea, too :)
As some others have done I also thought about how to reorganise the
I will just add my ideas here so they are not totally lost. maybe one or
two things might be interesting, too.
that's what i suggest:
1. secure the status of JSF members.
1.1 all people that think they have a need to influence
the XMPP evolution may apply to join the JSF
1.2 there are no restriction about who may have
the right to join the JSF (only the 15% of
JSF members of one company maximum)
1.3 the active JSF members have to vote more then 50%
for a person who wants to join the JSF as a temporary
1.4to secure the character of the JSF as a non profit
and non commercial dominated organisation there
must be no fee. Each new member is encouraged to get
a cool Jabber Software Foundation T-Shirt :)
2. increase the efficiense of the JSF.
2.1to increase the chances to make ppl leave that are not
really interested in Jabber we will have more
oportunities for votes. For example each JEP must be
all full members.
2.2a new member is a temporary member for 6 months that
has no vote.
after this time he might become a full member.
to become a full member 2/3 of all active JSF
full members have to back vote for him.
if that fails he must leave the JSF again.
2.3The duty of the active JSF members is to lead the
actions of the JSF (protocol, festivals...)
2.4The duty of the active + inactive JSF members is
to secure the character of the JSF.
This means changes of the general JSF rules can only
be done if more then 50% of all full members
back it. In this situation all full members have to vote.
3. clean up after activity.
3.1All JSF members that have been active for 2 years
may have the chance to become an incative member.
To become an inactive member 2/3 of all active JSF
members must back it.
3.2An incative member can always become active as soon
as he says
"i am now active".
3.3The inactive members organise themselve.
Hey, here some more words about this architecture.
1.1 - 1.3 should be clear :)
about 1.4 Well, even me would buy a cool Jabber T-Shirt (even with the
ugly light bulb on it) for maybe 10...
The sense of this would be that this can be a criteria for not voting for
the person to become a full active member.
whatever if we have a member who lives in africa in the jungle and has
no money ppl would notice that and consider it because
this action is only optional.
2.1 this should help and sort them out more quickly. for example we
can make more council/board member vote sessions in one year.
2.2 - 2.4 This is to secure the honor of active and "once" active (now
section 3 is to have some rules to distinguish between active and
On 11 Apr 2003 at 8:15, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> I'd like to again thank everyone who participated in the recent thread
> on the meaning of JSF membership. The fact that members are passionate
> and opinionated is a Good Thing.
> I've been thinking about this topic for weeks and I've discussed it with
> numerous JSF members and Board members. Lots of ideas have been floated:
> charging for membership, setting up levels of membership (e.g., voting
> and non-voting), allowing only those on JSF work teams to be members,
> etc. Many of these involve unnecessary complexity, I think, and really
> won't solve the problem. And what is the problem? It's not that the JSF
> is too open, but that members are, with very little effort, granted the
> equivalent of tenure: once a member, always a member. So I'm thinking
> that a simple reform would be to say that the term of membership is one
> year. When you are accepted as a member, your membership term is dated
> from the beginning of the application period in which you applied (e.g.,
> 2003-04-01 for those who are accepted this month). In the application
> period 12 months later, you must re-apply -- and you must list your
> Jabber-related accomplishments for the last 12 months. I don't think it
> matters all that much exactly what those accomplishments are, but
> they should be things that contribute toward the threefold mission of
> the JSF (develop the protocol, assist the community, and promote Jabber
> technology). So one's accomplishments could include writing JEPs,
> releasing software, posting consistently and productively to mailing
> lists, creating documentation, giving talks to Linux User Groups and
> industry forums, working actively on the Jabber Council or one of the
> JSF work teams, and the like.
> This simple reform would ensure that only active contributors are JSF
> members, and it might also encourage JSF members to be more active. :)
> Obviously we'd need to work out some details (e.g., what happens if a
> Council or work team member is not re-accepted -- how do we elect a
> replacement for that person?). But I think that won't be too hard.
> I'm not formally proposing this yet (i.e., it's too late for us to vote
> on this at the meeting on April 23), but I'd like to discuss it and see
> what people think.
> Thanks again.
> Peter Saint-Andre
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