[Foundation] Clarifications On Name Change Proposal

Evan Prodromou evan at prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us
Tue Jul 1 14:14:09 CDT 2003

>>>>> "IS" == Iain Shigeoka <iain at jivesoftware.com> writes:

    IS> I see the JSF as standards and advocacy of those standards and
    IS> in that role, should avoid the term Jabber. However, the wider
    IS> community should not feel that just because the JSF is
    IS> avoiding the term that it would be off limits for other things
    IS> outside of the JSF [...]

This is a very good point to bring up. The past history of Jabber
Inc. suggests that their goodwill towards the community w/r/t using
this trademark would continue in some form even if the JSF changed its
name and the term it uses for XMPP+JEPs.

That's just speculation, though. I don't think it's anywhere near a
sure thing.

>From a purely business standpoint, generosity about the trademark
would probably be strongly contingent on the word-of-mouth promotion
that the wide use of the word "Jabber" provides. If it were me, once a
new name is found for "XMPP plus JEPs", I wouldn't be so generous with
trademark licenses and such. It'd dilute the brand of products of
Jabber, Inc. without much payback.

I'm not suggesting that Jabber Inc. wouldn't let some community
organization or Free Software developers use the Jabber trademark
after a change in the name of the JSF -- especially with no statement
or evidence to the contrary. I'm saying that they'd have significantly
less incentive to do so, and we shouldn't assume going into this that
they would.


Evan Prodromou
evan at prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us

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