[Foundation] JSF == Jabber Standards Foundation?

Tony Bamonti tbamonti at jabber.com
Thu May 22 15:09:26 CDT 2003


comments in-line:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold E. Gottschalk Jr. [mailto:heg at imissary.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 11:59 AM
> To: members at jabber.org
> Subject: RE: [Foundation] JSF == Jabber Standards Foundation?
> 
> 
> I am against this change 200%.  
> 
> My personal opinion is that we have not gotten the traction needed
> because we do not have a reference piece of software.

200,000 downloads of Jabberd isn't that shabby....


>I 
> would hope one
> day we move away from just this notion of being a standards 
> organization
> and produce an piece of software that we are willing to stand behind.

So, you're advocating that the JSF become product rather than protocol
chartered......I'll contend that this would divide and diminish rather than
unite and grow the JSF..........not sure what effect it would have on the
general XMPP/Jabber community.....but I'd expect that others building
products on XMPP/Jabber would be far less inclined to participate with and
contribute to the JSF......and would find another organization to be the
standards bearer for on-going protocol advancement.  Philosophically, the
question is whether we want the JSF to be an organization at the center of a
diverse community of open source and commercial constituents who have
embraced an open and compelling technology or just a branch of that
community focused on one particular product implementation.



Tony Bamonti
Jabber, Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: members-admin at jabber.org 
> > [mailto:members-admin at jabber.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
> > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:23 AM
> > To: members at jabber.org
> > Subject: [Foundation] JSF == Jabber Standards Foundation?
> > 
> > 
> > Since we haven't had a good controversy on this list in at 
> > least a week, I figured I'd stir things up again. As you may 
> > know, Tony Bamonti and I have been working to recruit 
> > sponsors for the JSF. When we describe what the JSF does, 
> > sponsors (as well as journalists and the general public) 
> > often find it confusing that we're the Jabber Software 
> Foundation but 
> > we don't create or distribute software (in the way that, say, 
> > the Apache Software Foundation does). Instead, what the JSF 
> > does is manage and 
> > promote the Jabber protocol, thus setting standards for use by the 
> > Jabber community. So I'm thinking it might be easier to 
> > communicate our 
> > mission if JSF stood for "Jabber Standards Foundation".
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > -- 
> > Peter Saint-Andre
> > Jabber Software Foundation http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.php
> > 
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