[Foundation] JSF == Jabber Standards Foundation?

Gregory Leblanc gleblanc at linuxweasel.com
Thu May 22 15:49:37 CDT 2003

On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 08:22, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: 
> Since we haven't had a good controversy on this list in at least a week,
> I figured I'd stir things up again. As you may know, Tony Bamonti and I

I agree, it's been far too long!  ;-)

> have been working to recruit sponsors for the JSF. When we describe what
> the JSF does, sponsors (as well as journalists and the general public) 
> often find it confusing that we're the Jabber Software Foundation but 
> we don't create or distribute software (in the way that, say, the Apache
> Software Foundation does). Instead, what the JSF does is manage and 
> promote the Jabber protocol, thus setting standards for use by the 
> Jabber community. So I'm thinking it might be easier to communicate our 
> mission if JSF stood for "Jabber Standards Foundation".

I think the change from Software to Standards would be a good one for
the JSF.  I'm still undecided on if going to something without Jabber in
the name would be worthwhile or not.  I also think I'd like to see the
JSF do more to "certify" products as compliant with XMPP, or with any of
the protocol extensions.  I think this is where the JSF (or any rename
of it) has the ability to do the most benefit for the software
community.  This probably requires a suite of tools to do compliance
testing.  I think that ought to be the only piece of software that the
JSF is involved with directly.

Given that the JSF is really about the Jabber Protocol, err, I mean,
XMPP, I think that things like jabberstudio.org and other XMPP software
efforts ought to fall under another umbrella.  I don't know what we
ought to call this, or what it ought to provide exactly, except for
Jabberstudio/sourceforge type resources.  I don't know how it ought to
be funded, either, but I think the need for something like this is
pretty clearly there.  

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