[Foundation] JSF == Jabber Standards Foundation?
hildjj at cursive.net
Wed May 28 15:49:41 CDT 2003
I'm sorry, but that's just not true.
I'm always going to have to explain to people why don't just have a proprietary protocol, and why that's good for them. Regardless of the name of the organization that has responsibility for sheparding the protocol.
Our CEO likes to say that our ecosystem is made up of three parts:
1) Commercial entities, like Jabber, Inc. (and of course many others), that focus on productization, features, testing, scalabilitiy, services, etc.
2) Standards groups, such as the IETF and the JSF, which generate open protocols, leading to interoperability
3) Open Source implementations, which generate ubiquity and great ideas, and can write code quickly to try out those ideas.
And to have a strong company in today's marketplace (without being Microsoft), you have to get all three working at once.
Replace "JSF" with "foo", and we'll continue to tell the exact same story.
From: Matt Tucker [mailto:matt at jivesoftware.com]
Sent: Wed 5/28/2003 9:05 AM
To: members at jabber.org
Subject: Re: [Foundation] JSF == Jabber Standards Foundation?
>>Heh. It's really not the same thing at all. If Joe is out there
>>explaining the difference every day, that's commendable and a
>>service to our community. However, it also proves our point. :)
> I'd have to do it no matter what it's called.
Actually, I don't think this is true. If the JSF can agree to remove
Jabber from it's name and to not use Jabber in the name of official
protocol extensions for compliance purposes (such as "Jabber IM Basic
1.0"), then that should free you from having to try to explain the
difference between an open protocol and your products to your customers,
the press, etc. You'd then be more free to use the Jabber brand to
promote your commercial products, which is your right. So, the change
really seems to benefit all of us, including Jabber Inc at the end of
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