[Foundation] FOSDEM Jabber server

Ralph Meijer jabberfoundation at ralphm.ik.nu
Sat Feb 7 02:51:00 CST 2004


On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 07:25:44PM -0800, Justin Karneges wrote:
> Just a nit: I'm a bit surprised at the recommendation of Gabber1.  That would 
> almost be like recommending Winjab.  Why not recommend an active client such 
> as Gabber2, Gaim, Gossip, Psi, or Tkabber?

Simple. The users guide on the jabber.org website gives examples using gabber
1. I wanted to get people online as soon as possible, and just mention
one client per platform. Gabber 1 is fully functional for regular chats
and group chat, although a bit dated.

To be more specific, I didn't include Gabber2 because it is not really ready
for end users yet, e.g. there is currently only a debian package outside the
'normal' package distribution. For other distributions and platforms (like
FreeBSD), you'd have to build from source, something people are less likely to
do when trying out something. I am confident that this will change in the
coming months.

Gossip, although I currently use it frequently, doesn't have good groupchat
functionality (you can't initiate private chats and your presence doesn't
change along with your roster presence). I've been actively trying to get this
going, but it isn't high enough on the priority list yet. In short, the
argument is: nobody uses group chat, they use IRC. So we have a chicken-egg
problem.

Gaim is not a pure Jabber client.

I've never really tried Psi, might be a good client, but can't give support
for it.

TKabber, looks very full featured, but same argument as for Psi.

I did include a link to the jabber.org clients page, so people can choose other
clients, too. And if someone gives me tutorial text (preferably in DocBook) and
images for other clients, I'd be happy to put these up, too.

Surely, I didn't intend to offend anyone, so if I am wrong, let me know.

-- 
Groetjes,

Ralphm



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