[Members] Where to Discuss JEPs the Right Way

Matthew A.Miller linuxwolf at outer-planes.net
Mon Mar 29 06:48:19 CST 2004

I feel I need to say something about the latest threads on this mailing
list.  I apologize for not saying something earlier, especially for the
benefit of our newest members.

There have been a couple of threads on this list discussing the merits
of JEPs.  Please, I ask that we use standards-jig@ list for these
discussions, and save this list for matters directly affecting the
day-to-day operations of the JSF.

The purpose of last call is to raise concerns and questions about JEPs
the author(s) and Council feel are ready to move forward.  Yet last call
cannot happen unless a percentage (15%, or about 8 or 9 members, IIRC)
of the JSF membership agrees with this, hence the motion (and seconds)
for last call.

I understand and appreciate the active discussions about the motioned
JEPs.  However, at this particular moment in time, replies on this list
really should be restricted to whether you support the motion or not. 
There is only so much time that can pass between the motioning of last
call and its acceptance via seconds.  The current discussions on this
list, while quite interesting and informative, are also somewhat
distracting in that they are neither for nor against the motions at

If you want to discuss the technical issues about motioned JEPs, I ask
that you direct such discussions to standards-jig at .  If you wish to
state why you do or do not second the last call, you most certainly may,
but please be prepared to restate those concerns on standards-jig@ (-: 
Otherwise, please use this list for the direct operations of the JSF,
and use standards-jig@ for the technical discussions on JEPs.

Thank you, and good morning (in UTC-07:00 anyway) (-:

-  LW

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