[Members] Civil Disobedience

Dave Smith dizzyd at gmail.com
Wed Aug 24 12:17:41 CDT 2005

>From the following link:


"There's a reason for that openness. We believe Internet communication
networks should openly interoperate, and that they should include IM
and voice. The openness of the Google Talk service to XMPP clients is
just a start. We like SIP too, and we want to also federate between
servers. "

I think that establishes their intent pretty clearly.


On 8/24/05, Bart van Bragt <jabber at vanbragt.com> wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > First of all, this is a friggin' BETA. They JUST released it. They wrote
> Relax, Peter. All I see is a huge company implementing XMPP in a
> crippled way and talking about guidelines and agreements with other
> large corporate entities. Is it that surprising that this gets me
> suspicious? I can see where you're coming from but please keep this
> information asymmetry in mind. You see to know what their long term
> plans are and why they don't have S2S (at the moment) I didn't know
> anything about that until a few minutes ago.
> Waiting is fine with me if you've heard that some cool stuff is coming
> that's going to make us happy. OTOH if they are still trying to figure
> out how they are going to deal with all the other XMPP servers out there
> I don't see why we should wait with getting into contact with them. They
> even ask on their development page if interested parties can contact
> them to talk about federation related issues. IMO the JSF is (or should
> be) one of these parties.
> Bart
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